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The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Catholic Church
Life Site News ^ | 8-26-09 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:18 PM PDT by STARWISE

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1 posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:19 PM PDT by STARWISE
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~~Bump


2 posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:54 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

The Bushes shouldn’t be getting within a thousand miles of that place. They ought to know better.


3 posted on 08/27/2009 10:24:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: STARWISE

I can’t even mutter “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do” because the Kennedy’s know exactly what they’re doing.


4 posted on 08/27/2009 10:26:54 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (Obama's Deficit Projections Assume That He & Congress Will Stop Spending)
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To: STARWISE

“Canada suffered a similar scandal in 2000, with the death of former Catholic Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.

Despite his having legalized abortion, divorce and homosexuality he was given a state funeral in Montreal’s Notre-Dame Basilica, presided over by the archbishop of Montreal, Cardinal Jean-Claude Turcotte. One of the pallbearers was Cuba’s communist president Fidel Castro.”


Heey, maybe they can get Castro to be a pallbearer at Ted Kennedy’s funeral as well.


5 posted on 08/27/2009 10:34:29 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Why not all of the banana republic presidente’s?


6 posted on 08/27/2009 10:36:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: elizabethgrace

It’s a real challenge.

I assume this issue, of a Catholic funeral, must have been taken up with Kennedy before his death. Personally, I would prefer that he not be given the honor of a Mass from the Catholic Church, but that’s not for me to say.

I think this will be put to use against Catholics and I think it sends a wrong message to our young people.


7 posted on 08/27/2009 10:37:38 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Why not all of the banana republic presidente’s?”


Most of them are neither Communist nor mass murderers, and thus not worthy of being one of Ted Kennedy’s pallbearers.


8 posted on 08/27/2009 10:38:28 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: STARWISE

The generalization is too sweeping. The Catholic Church has not changed its position, nor will it just to accommodate the funeral of a sinner. The responsibility lies with the archdiocese of Boston. And, if Kennedy went to confession and confessed his sins, received absolution and communion, he died in a state of grace, and would be entitled to a Catholic funeral Mass.


9 posted on 08/27/2009 10:39:10 PM PDT by redhead (Demand that congress abide by the 10th Amendment. O-care is ILLEGAL.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“Heey, maybe they can get Castro to be a pallbearer at Ted Kennedy’s funeral as well.”

How’s about a little help from “the Last Brother”.

He’s got the ball now!


10 posted on 08/27/2009 10:39:27 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: STARWISE

With nary a word on the diddling of little boys over the centuries, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a holy smack-down of Teddy during his funeral .


11 posted on 08/27/2009 10:49:19 PM PDT by WackySam
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ping


12 posted on 08/27/2009 10:50:48 PM PDT by Faith
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To: HiTech RedNeck
re:The Bushes shouldn’t be getting within a thousand miles of that place. They ought to know better.)))

Abso-freepin'--lutely.

But the Glamour of the Kennedys seduces the Bushes. They long to be accepted into the circle. Laura so wishes to be embraced by the Irish TRASH. They hold honest middle-class conservatives in contempt....those poor white trash. Don't ask me anymore to contribute to any libraries for W, Laura. I know you wouldn't sit down at a table with the likes of me.

Fie on the Bushes.

13 posted on 08/27/2009 10:53:13 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney?)
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To: STARWISE

Nice to see SOME pointed discussion of the outrages.

However, the bottom line is clearly

BUSINESS as usual.

Horrific.


14 posted on 08/27/2009 10:56:42 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: incredulous joe

“I think this will be put to use against Catholics and I think it sends a wrong message to our young people.”

I agree. I picture Mother Theresa giving her speech at the UN (I think that’s where it was) wherein this tiny lady passionately defended the unborn. Then I picture the forthcoming funeral circus at which a lineup of so-called Catholics will take communion, including Pelousi, Biden, all the Kennedys and so on.

And the circus will include a plethora of robed and adorned priests, Bishops and Cardinals.

I was raised and educated Catholic and I recall being taught about the subject of scandal. Apparently it has been forgotten as a teaching of the ‘Mother Church’.

I’m glad I’m no longer Catholic and participate in a church that steadfastly defends the life of the unborn.


15 posted on 08/27/2009 10:56:53 PM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: redhead

This is true. We are all delivered to the mercy of God and we pray at Mass, “look not on my sins, but on the faith of thy Holy Church” and faith shared by saints, and holy men and women of orders in churches,convents and monasteries is solid as the rock of Gibraltar.


16 posted on 08/27/2009 11:01:50 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: redhead

“And, if Kennedy went to confession and confessed his sins, received absolution and communion, he died in a state of grace, and would be entitled to a Catholic funeral Mass.”

I would think that part of the penance for absolution would include, since he was very public with his views, would be to renounce them publicly. Being a Catholic for all these years, anything less would be heresy, IMHO.

I for one, will loose an awful lot of respect for my Church if theu honer him...


17 posted on 08/27/2009 11:16:23 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Steelfish

“This is true.”

No it’s not... See #17


18 posted on 08/27/2009 11:19:04 PM PDT by babygene
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To: STARWISE
We have no idea if Senator Kennedy had a deathbed re-conversion. (He could then have a Catholic funeral.) We cannot judge.

Beginning Catholic: The Anointing of the Sick: Comfort and Healing [Ecumenical]

19 posted on 08/27/2009 11:22:53 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Oh my goodness .. that is so nasty and offensive.

Is there no decorum and civility left?


20 posted on 08/27/2009 11:27:21 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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