Posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:18 PM PDT by STARWISE
If the Catholic Church gives him a Mass, with Sacraments, they are hypocrites just like he is.
Bullseye! That's EXACTLY what I was thinking! (And you expressed that in a much nicer way than I would have been able to.)
I knew this guy’s funeral would be bring out the Catholic bashers....
Sure as shootin’ ..
I am a Catholic and I know all about death bed confessions...
However, this Non-Catholic Kennedy was on his “death bed” for more than 6 months. It’s simply not believable that he had a change of heart in the last 30 seconds.
This harms the Church immeasurably if this precedes. It shows them to be talking out of their ass...
The funeral will be held at The Mission Church of Boston.
http://www.themissionchurchboston.com/
I don’t think this is a regular RTC Chgurch. It may be one of those outside the limits churches attended by leftists who call themselves Catholics like Kerry and Kennedy. Those who support abortion, are divorced and remarried.
How does the Catholic Church explain a Catholic funeral for Teddy?
Certainly will not be a High Requiem Mass presided over by the Archbishop of Boston.
It sure does.
ITA.
But, it happens all the time with people not in the public eye. We all see his sins. We see what he and others like him have been allowed to get away with because of their status. It sends a horrible message, imo, to our young and the rest of us.
However, at the same time, this life is temporary and eternity is forever and who knows what his meeting with Jesus was like or what transpired. He wasn’t a Catholic, or a rather a practicing Catholic and it’s obvious he didn’t follow the dogma let alone the doctrine that is the Catholic Church.
I hate what he’s done to this Country. His eternal life is up to God.
Oh please.
Yes, it was a scandal and horrific but not as widespread as the MSM would have one believe. And if you think for one second this is any more prevalent in the Catholic Church than other churches and other institutions, than you’re clueless.
Oh please, again! The Catholic Church has defended the lives of the unborn more than any other.
One must remember that the Catholic Church, and all Churches, is run by humans and humans err. The teachings are clear. There are Bishops all over the world that don’t follow the teachings, dogma and doctrine, of the Catholic Church. They should be removed, imo. Just as anyone, Priests, nuns, etc. should be reprimanded and/or removed when they don’t follow the teachings.
You’re no longer Catholic so why do you even care what happens in the Catholic Church? Why does anyone care what happens in the Church they don’t follow? As long as it’s not affecting the laws of this land, who gives a damn what other churches/religions think other than their own?
If I go back to my 16 years of Catholic education, including the last four with the Jesuits, I fail to see how the Church can have a public funeral mass without causing a scandal. Kennedy was divorced, lived a scandalous life and openly promoted and defended abortion and homosexuality.
But, then again, I’ve lost all hope that our Bishops have anything to do with Catholic teachings but are merely poor accountants.
I think this is where FRED PHELPS comes in??? /sarc / lol
I hate what that man and most of his family have done to my Country. Whatever happened on his deathbed or during his private confessions is none of my business. I don’t consider him a Catholic and hate that this family got away with so much and with the support of some priests and Bishops.
But he’s a public figure and claims he’s a Catholic so of course the Catholic Church is going to be slammed. Especially by non Catholics who just like to trash and by former Catholics who have their own issues.
There are those of us who hate that the Kennedy family, or cetain members, claim to be Catholic when everything they stand for is directly against Church teachings. Hmmm, maybe one day we’ll all be self righteous about Jews or some Protestant Demonination that some public official belongs to.
Yep.
Cardinal Sean P. O’Malley, who blogged affectionately about Kennedy’s sister, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, after her recent death, has declined requests for interviews about Kennedy. He has issued only a cautious written statement, saying “we mourn the passing of Senator Edward M. Kennedy’’ and describing the senator as “often a champion for the poor, the less fortunate, and those seeking a better life.’’ But O’Malley has been sharply critical of Catholic Democrats who support abortion rights, and has said that for Catholics to vote for such politicians “borders on scandal.’’http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/08/28/kennedys_complex_legacy_as_a_catholic/?page=2
That may not be all that we would wish but it is quite a slap to not have him saying the funeral.
And you know this how?
I agree with you about TK but you have no clue about anyone’s elses death bed confessions.
He’s gonna have a Catholic funeral. No doubt about that. And some in America and other parts of the world will say all these wonderful things about this scum of a human being.
That’s pretty much what some of them are.
If you also go back to your 16 years of Catholic education you should remember that Catholic funeral Masses are performed every day on people who aren’t practicing Catholics. People who didn’t follow church teachings, didn’t live as Catholics, etc. TK and most of the Kennedy family iirc aren’t and haven’t been practicing Catholics. And that’s common knowledge. Yet, they’ve been married in Catholic masses, buried in Catholic masses, and have priests and bishops that think they’re wonderful. Or they get something from it.
JFK wasn’t a practicing Catholic either and he pretty much sucked as President but many seem to forget all about that.
I believe it’s a Roman Catholic Church, though not a parish Church.
http://www.themissionchurchboston.com/basilica/
Only 1 thing with what you said, he got his first marriage annulled so he could marry the second wife within the church..Making his children bastards...
not catholic bashers, just realists based on the churches history for a couple of decades.
QUESTION: Will my children be illegitimate if my marriage is annulled?
Answer: NO! This is a grave misconception. The marital status of the parents does not affect the status of the children. All children are created in God's image and have equal status in the church. Neither civil law nor church law considers the children of an annulled marriage illegitimate. Nor does the annulment imply that the children were not the fruit of a genuine human love. Annulment is simply a decision on the circumstances surrounding a marriage that could prevent that marriage from being a sacramental marriage.
http://www.stdanielclarkston.org/annulmnt.htm
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