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The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Catholic Church
Life Site News ^ | 8-26-09 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:18 PM PDT by STARWISE

Saturday's grandiose Catholic funeral for Senator Ted Kennedy has the potential to be a scandal that will make Notre Dame's Obama Day a walk in the park.

With all four living former Presidents in attendance and an address from President Barack Obama, the funeral is set to be a royal crowning, right inside a Catholic Church, of a man who betrayed the most fundamental moral teachings of the faith.

What example will this give to Catholics and the rest of the world looking in? It will surely belie the Catholic teachings on the sanctity of life and sexuality.

"Surely," they will say, "if one of the most vociferous proponents of abortion and homosexuality in politics is so feted in the Church, the Church cannot possibly regard abortion as murder."

Would anyone so honor one who so advocated what the church officially considers an "unspeakable crime"?

The Church in the US has suffered a dangerous precedent with the recent Notre Dame award to President Obama. However, President Obama is not Catholic. Therefore, the impact of the scandal was blunted.

Regarding Senator Kennedy, however, the stakes are much higher in terms of scandal and public relations.

Kennedy, began his life as a Catholic in great ceremony. At age seven, he received his First Communion from Pope Pius XII in the Vatican. He was also pro-life early in his political career.

"Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized - the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old," he wrote in 1971.

However, abandoning the practice of faith is regarded as worse than never having known.

The Bible, in the second book of Peter teaches: "For if, flying from the pollutions of the world, through the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they be again entangled in them and overcome: their latter state is become unto them worse than the former. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of justice than, after they have known it, to turn back from that holy commandment which was delivered to them." (2 Peter 2:20-21)

Rev. Patrick Tarrant, pastor of the Church where Kennedy is to be buried has informed the media that he was present at Kennedy's death and thus hopefully the senator made a last confession and was reconciled with the Church.

However, only a public repudiation of his militantly anti-life and anti-family actions would serve to lessen the scandal of the upcoming funeral extravaganza.

I don't discount that that might be coming. After all, Kennedy did have President Obama deliver a letter to the Pope when Obama made his visit to the Vatican in July. Although unlikely, given the Senator's recent, intense support for Obama's health care reforms, perhaps there was a public confession in the letter waiting to be released. We can hope and pray.

If we assume a private confession was made there could be a private funeral Mass for the family, without politicians and media. And of course there would still be a secular memorial event, with all the pomp and ceremony for this star of the secular world.

Such a deliberately subdued Catholic liturgical event for the Senator would, at this time, with the announcement of the Catholic funeral already out, come at the cost of enduring the rage of those who have become used to the Church giving in to their demands. However, the eternal benefit would be to send a clear message to Catholic politicians in particular, and to the public in general, that the Church is actually serious about the sanctity of human life.

It could also be an opportunity for Church leaders to repent of having failed to work hard enough to bring wayward Catholic politicians back to faith, or even of having in many cases led them away from the faith, as some clergy are known to have influenced Kennedy.

It would not be the first time the Church has apologized for not living up to it's pro-life convictions. In 2000, when Pope John Paul II was making his much touted "Universal Prayer" of "Confession Of Sins And Asking For Forgiveness" one of the ignored apologies concerned the unborn.

Then-Archbishop François Xavier Nguyên Van Thuân prayed "let us pray for those who are most defenseless, the unborn killed in their mother's womb or even exploited for experimental purposes by those who abuse the promise of biotechnology and distort the aims of science."

The Pope responded in prayer, "God, our Father, you always bear the cry of the poor. How many times have Christians themselves not recognized you in the hungry, the thirsty and the naked, in the persecuted, the imprisoned, and in those incapable of defending themselves, especially in the first stages of life. For all those who have committed acts of injustice by trusting in wealth and power and showing contempt for the "little ones" who are so dear to you, we ask your forgiveness: have mercy on us and accept our repentance. We ask this through Christ our Lord."

Canada suffered a similar scandal in 2000, with the death of former Catholic Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.

Despite his having legalized abortion, divorce and homosexuality he was given a state funeral in Montreal's Notre-Dame Basilica, presided over by the archbishop of Montreal, Cardinal Jean-Claude Turcotte. One of the pallbearers was Cuba's communist president Fidel Castro.

Five months after the funeral Calgary Bishop Fred Henry was asked if he were offended by Trudeau’s funeral. He replied: “Yes, I was.... there were some issues or questions there that might make one kind of pause and consider whether or not this was an appropriate funeral to have or not."


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To: goat granny
so he could marry the second wife within the church..

Incorrect. Kennedy was married to Reggie in a civil ceremony in his home in McLean, VA on 3 July 1992, not in a church. There's no indication that his second marriage was a sacramental one.

Making his children bastards.

Wrong again.

61 posted on 08/28/2009 5:23:24 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Happyinmygarden

“I’m glad I’m no longer Catholic and participate in a church that steadfastly defends the life of the unborn.”

Then I was right.


62 posted on 08/28/2009 5:33:42 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Catholic Church

Correction: The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Archdiocese of Boston

63 posted on 08/28/2009 5:34:15 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Twink

“maybe one day we’ll all be self righteous about Jews or some Protestant Demonination that some public official belongs to.”

Unfortunately, they won’t be held to the same standards.

Devout Catholics will have to do a penance of listening to the non-Catholics and ex-Catholics shaking their fingers at them and agitating the issue ~ acting all self-righteous and superior about their claims to being more pro-life than others and taking broadsides at decent practicing, pro-life Catholic Christians.

That’s kind of childish, and as I had predicted in my original post.


64 posted on 08/28/2009 5:48:13 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: STARWISE; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Catholic Ping
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65 posted on 08/28/2009 5:54:49 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Mamzelle

You have no idea what Laura Bush would or would not do.
What’s with the “Irish TRASH” comment? Are we, perhaps, seeing a resurgence of !9th Century Racism?


66 posted on 08/28/2009 6:15:00 AM PDT by rogator
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To: Faith
This makes me sick. I will pray. But we're caught in a hell-designed situation where the Left leverages Kennedy's fdeah as an oranizing tool, the sexually disordered and abortion-enthusiasts trumpet his glory, while the upright, struggling with their sense of outraged decency, are silenced with nil nisi bonum.
67 posted on 08/28/2009 6:16:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine.)
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To: goat granny

“Bastard” is a term not found in canon law or Catholic tradition. The Church uses the phrase “natural child.”


68 posted on 08/28/2009 6:18:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: goat granny

The question is not of a civil marriage, which confers legitimacy on the children, but of a sacramental marriage. They are two entirely different things. One is a true marriage, with Christ at the center, the two people intending to be married forever and accepting children as the fruit of the marriage. The other is merely a shacking up, made legal by the laws of the land.


69 posted on 08/28/2009 6:18:58 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: redhead
Divorced? Pro Abortion? I thought this guy had been excommunicated years ago. What is wrong with the Catholic
heirarchy? Were they bought off like Dominic Arena and the Kopechne’s?
70 posted on 08/28/2009 6:21:19 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: redhead
Divorced? Pro Abortion? I thought this guy had been excommunicated years ago. What is wrong with the Catholic
heirarchy? Were they bought off like Dominic Arena and the Kopechne’s?
71 posted on 08/28/2009 6:21:39 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: redhead
Divorced? Pro Abortion? I thought this guy had been excommunicated years ago. What is wrong with the Catholic
heirarchy? Were they bought off like Dominic Arena and the Kopechne’s?
72 posted on 08/28/2009 6:22:04 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: goat granny

“Bastard” is a legal category, not a church one. A church annulment has no effect on the legal status of children.


73 posted on 08/28/2009 6:28:28 AM PDT by maryz
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To: redhead
I'm from Boston and there has been no mention in the local media of who will be saying the Mass. Also, I go to daily Mass, and there has been no mention of Kennedy this week (three different priests), not offering the Mass for him, no mention by name in the Petitions -- though the pastor did offer one petition that politicians who claim to be Christian should start acting that way. (I think our pastor is fairly close to the Cardinal; he holds some kind of Archdiocese position in addition to being our pastor.)

The funeral Mass is to be at Mission Church, and I'm unclear as to its status within the Archdiocese. It does function as a parish, with parish boundaries, but it's not staffed by diocesan priests -- it's always been staffed by the Redemptorists, and I wonder if the Order actually has ownership rights.

74 posted on 08/28/2009 6:33:37 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
The funeral Mass is to be at Mission Church, and I'm unclear as to its status within the Archdiocese. It does function as a parish, with parish boundaries, but it's not staffed by diocesan priests -- it's always been staffed by the Redemptorists, and I wonder if the Order actually has ownership rights.

Ahhh, I wondered about that. The MSM would never report such a thing because they don't quite understand the difference. That makes more sense. I'm somewhat surprised that it's the Redemptorists rather than the Jesuits, though.

75 posted on 08/28/2009 6:36:40 AM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Twink

“You’re no longer Catholic so why do you even care what happens in the Catholic Church?”

I can’t say that I do care, actually, but it is a shame that an organization with such enormous influence and power can’t unit on such a basic issue (that they claim is a tenet of their faith) and use their power for good. Think of the enormously impressive results if they ‘put their foot down’ and stuck to it.


76 posted on 08/28/2009 6:48:42 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: Desdemona
Also, Cardinal Seán's Blog has no mention of him -- though there is an entry for The legacy of Eunice Kennedy Shriver. Hmmm . . .
77 posted on 08/28/2009 6:56:28 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Happyinmygarden
Well, if it's any consolation, if you consider that a public official of over 40 years generally is buried from a Cathedral with the bishop or archbishop presiding, and Teddy is being buried from a parish, NOT the cathedral, run by the Redemptorists, who are, well the Redemptorists who are not under the authority of the local ordinary - Ted Kennedy just got dissed by the Church. No Cathedral, no Sean Cardinal O’Malley - no JESUITS??????? For the family that kept them in the news for so many years? Yeah, it's not subtle. The official Church does not approve.
78 posted on 08/28/2009 7:01:12 AM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: maryz
See my post #78. With no Mass at the cathedral and the archbishop not in attendance for a public official...yeah, not even subtle. I assume the Redemptorists there are the same as they are here - do what they want and the archdiocese considers it a place to stash the revolutionaries.
79 posted on 08/28/2009 7:04:37 AM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Desdemona
I don't know much about them -- not anything really, except for their connection with Mission, which is, incidentally, a huge and very beautiful church.

It just struck me that maybe Kennedy's being buried in Arlington because, well, I believe the Catholic cemeteries here are owned by the Archdiocese!

80 posted on 08/28/2009 7:13:13 AM PDT by maryz
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