Posted on 08/28/2009 11:28:07 PM PDT by kellynla
I love Catholicism. It is phonies like the Kennedys and their apologists that I despise. If and when any of them return to the Faith, I will reconsider and not one moment earlier.
I got up on the Cathooic side of the bed this and every other morning. If you cannot distinguish between Teddy and an actual Catholic, you are in over your head (something that has been known to happen on occasion among those who just cannot resist the sCamelot of it all.
Oh, and my grandmother spent many of her early years working for James Michael Curley who sent Honey Fitz packing from public life. She despised Honey Fitz and other Castle Irish scum who were Teddy's ancestors. And a good thing too!
Let us not confuse the Faith with its temporary diocesan administrators. Do you enthuse for Roger Cardinal McPhony of LA (weeping oceans of tears over Teddy's demise and B-XVI's rise) or do you "hate the Church?" False dichotomy.
Do you congratulate Bernard Cardinal Law on the spiffy job that he did in playing musical priests as his response to the, ummmm, late unpleasantness between many of his subordinate clergy (i.e. Slattery and the late Geoghegan) and the boys they raped or do you hate the Church? False dichotomy.
The fact that you had an Irish grandmother obviously did not insulate you from Kennedy disease any more than his Irish great grandmother protected Teddy from being a rank apostate. The trouble lies not with the Faith but with those who, like Teddy and his apparent admirers, are will =ing to redefine the Faith so that they can claim Kennedys to be part of it.
The likely next Kennedy to hold that Senate seat is Joseph (Bobby's spawn) who married Sheila Rauch (an Episcopalian) in a sacramental Catholic wedding but then wanted to turn her in for a later model (one of Joey's Congressional Office, ummm, secretaries). Sheila studied up on Canon Law and would not go quietly. Cardinal Law's toadies apparently had no problem granting Joey his requested annulment so he could marry his new main squeeze in a Catholic wedding and keep the myth of Kennedy Catholicism alive for future gulling of Catholic practitioners of Hyannisport mania. He will now have to explain how Catholic he is to continue his invalid relationship with wife #2 AFTER the Rota (Vatican Appellate Court as to matters marital) overturned the decision of the Hoston Marriage Tribunal and granted Sheila the requested decree ruling her marriage to Joey valid. I can't wait to hear his rationalizations when wife #1 goes on the attack and Joey and his defenders explain that, as a Kennedy, he can make it up as he goes along, stay with "wife" #2 and spit on the Vatican while playing make believe "Catholic."
I am certainly pugnacious, aggressive and maybe even vituperative. OTOH, I uphold the standards of the Catholic Faith as you do not. Hence you are in no position to claim I have been "downright nasty" toward Catholicism. Going after hypocrisy and evil in lefty AmChurch circles lay or clerical is being good to the Church and hard on her enemies.
If you slurp up the Kennedy Kool Aid, then you are no friend of the Catholicism they have undermined, whatever you may say. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said: You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own "facts." When tradition is restored, it will be over the dead bodies of Klan Kennedy and their sycophants.
“If you slurp up the Kennedy Kool Aid, then you are no friend of the Catholicism they have undermined, whatever you may say. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said: You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own “facts.” When tradition is restored, it will be over the dead bodies of Klan Kennedy and their sycophants.”
Before I was laughing at your Sid Vicious routine. Now it no longer humors me at all. You don’t know me from an Adam’s Apple, buddy, and my reply wasn’t even directed to you, but you sure picked up the cudgel and ran with it, didn’t you. My cheery outlook has now soured, soured to equal your obviously constant soured outlook.
In my opinion, you give Catholics a bad name with your holier than thou my way or the highway outlook, which is really tasteless. You can hurl your 50 words per second outlook into cyberspace, that doesn’t make what you say valid. When I replied about this situation, it was never to defend the Kennedy Clan and some of their shenanigans over the years, it was to defend the Church’s position in regard to a funeral mass and how the Church should or should not have handled it. And somehow I think their decisions supersedes yours. I never expressed any love for the Kennedys, their brand of Catholicism, or the examples a few of them have presented as role models, or should I say the lack thereof. But you paint with a broad brush. The whole Kennedy clan are not Teddy. You know no more than I how many of them feel about their religion and the practice of it. Their numbers are legion and unless you can channel all of their inner beliefs and feelings, do not generalize.
Eunice Shriver, with the Special Olympics she created and sponsored her whole life was a magnificent woman. Even old Teddy did a few good things in his life, along with too much bad, but you are so myopic you can’t separate the wheat from the chaff. Too much hatred is eating up your soul. Teddy has now met his maker, and his punishment or lack thereof is sealed. Only God knows. Not you. You’ll find out if you end up one day in the same place he is at currently.
Meanwhile, cut the nasties out of your speech, stop making assumptions as to what you believe you know about me because you don’t, and I suggest you go to church and take care of your own shortcomings. You need a day in the pew reviewing your need to spout venom with some regularity and your propensity towards self righteousness. Get off your high horse.
Oh, by the way, this is it for me, I don’t wish to speak with you on this topic because you can not rationally address it for whatever your internal reasons are. Go sic yourself on someone else. I want my good mood back. Think I’ll go read my Traditional Latin Mass magazine in order to purge my brain of the bilge that was dumped into it by a bitter fellow Catholic. Enjoy your evening.
P.S., the fact that Joey had his annullment reversed delights me. Made my day when I heard it a while back. And yes, I am afraid he may be the next standard bearer for the Kennedy clan politically. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if Kennedy’s wife, or his oldest son Ted, Jr. (the one with the amputated leg) jumps into the political fray. There’s plenty of Kennedy’s left to muddy the political waters. Heaven help us.
Excellent article!
Be sure to post for us any article in Latin Mass that praises the late Hyannisport whale. Eunice was another matter and a verrrry Catholic and very good human being.
That having been said, we shall see how delighted you are when, inevitably, as a member of the Boston formerly Catholic "royal" family, the apostate Joey starts pontificating in his confused hallucination that bearing the surname Kennedy makes him a religious authority.
Unlike Ted the Swimmer, little Joey has fewer chips in the game to inspire tears and flapdoodle unless and until he loses two socially similar brothers to assassination. Maybe the GOP should run Sheila Rauch Kennedy in Massachusetts. She has a demonstrated track record (though belonging to the church of Henry VIII and the Right Reverend Mr. Vicki Gene Robinson) of standing up for the indissolubility of marriage. With her there would be at least hope of support for the babies and that marriage be between one man and one woman. Not only that but her name in the race would confuse the Demozombies of Taxachusetts.
Bad news. I am closer to Latin Mass magazine than you may think and I attend one every week. No, I don't know you personally but somehow I will survive.
My #101 is a new land speed record for typos. Too many to correct. Spellcheck is my friend...spellcheck is my friend...spellcheck is.....
Buzz off.
Talk about things you like to hear!
Etc. from Bloody Mary's song to Lt. Joe Cable trying to persuade him to do a Teddy K with her lovely young daughter Leah.
You would benefit greatly from reading The Faithfully Departed by Phil Lawlor, former Editor of Catholic World Report and of The Boston Pilot. Not much Happy Talk but a whole lot of distressing truth.
Or YOU may buzz off if you see fit.
In case you are too young to remember, the song was from South Pacific.
Amen.
Amen.
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