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Majority Rule on Health Care Reform (NYT Barf)
NYT ^ | August 29, 2009

Posted on 08/29/2009 11:59:06 PM PDT by Tzimisce

The talk in Washington is that Senate Democrats are preparing to push through health care reforms using parliamentary procedures that will allow a simple majority to prevail in their chamber, as it does in the House, instead of the 60 votes needed to overcome the filibuster that Senate Republicans are sure to mount.

With the death of Senator Edward Kennedy, the Democrats do not have the votes just among their 57 members (and the two independents) to break a filibuster, and not all of these can be counted on to vote in lock step. If the Democrats want to enact health care reform this year, they appear to have little choice but to adopt a high-risk, go-it-alone, majority-rules strategy.

We say this with considerable regret because a bipartisan compromise would be the surest way to achieve comprehensive reforms with broad public support. But the ideological split between the parties is too wide — and the animosities too deep — for that to be possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhohealthcare; healthcare; tyranny
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1 posted on 08/29/2009 11:59:06 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Tzimisce

No, the Pubbies have finally wised up and will let the Rats own this one lock, stock, and barrel. (The Rats won’t let the GOP get a word edgewise into their bills, anyhow.)


2 posted on 08/30/2009 12:00:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

RATS should be made aware that anything adopted under reconciliation can be REPEALED with reconciliation. And you had better belive Obamacare is going to be high on the list of things that need to be repealed.


3 posted on 08/30/2009 12:01:13 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: advance_copy

can it be repealed without the president?


4 posted on 08/30/2009 12:04:59 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Tzimisce
2009, the year the American Representative Republic died.
5 posted on 08/30/2009 12:05:10 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: 4rcane

If you have the votes to override a veto, yes. If not, the bulk of the bill doesn’t go into effect until 2013, by which time America, if we have any sense, will have a new President.

Before the obamacare turd has festered too long, Americans will want nothing else but to be rid of it.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 12:07:37 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Tzimisce
We say this with considerable regret because a bipartisan compromise would be the surest way to achieve comprehensive reforms with broad public support.

Bullcrap, Slimes.
No wonder why your equivalent of a tampon newspaper is going down the toilet.
Dems have the votes, they don't need those evil Republicans. In fact they don't even need to go nuclear, because the wonder twin RINOs from Maine will vote with them.

7 posted on 08/30/2009 12:08:26 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: 4rcane

Well, it can be repealed by the individual States! This is an unconstitutional act and the States do have the right to ignore this. I hope that many States finally decide that the 10th Amendment provides them with the power to ignore such unconstitutional bills.

I do think that if they try to push this through, it will cause a constitutional crisis and it should. It’s high time that the States take back their rights that they have forsaken for so many decades.


8 posted on 08/30/2009 12:10:43 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Tzimisce
when will this dnc newsletter go under?
this tired rag issues orders that no one cares about anymore.
if the dems try this one the repub plan to demand the bill be read page by page and it will shut down the senate for a year.
9 posted on 08/30/2009 12:18:58 AM PDT by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: Tzimisce

They better not break that rule....it’s probably the most sane ones around.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 12:21:23 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: advance_copy; 4rcane

GOP control of one house is enough to block funding of any of the mess. They will simply refuse to give any such funding their vote and that is that.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 12:21:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It doesn’t matter if the RATS own it lock stock and barrel.

With a well executed frontloading cost basis strategy the RATS can delay the breakdown of the United States medical system for 2 or maybe 3 election cycles, at which time the system will have become a leviathan with oevr 6 million direct or indirect employees, never to be scaled back or properly audited for the entire future of the current regime in Washingotn DC.

They will steal money from us in years 9 through 14 to pay for services for years 0 through 7.5, allowing the RATS times to push through amnesties and wait for the WWII and baby boomers to die off, ensuring a permanent RAT supermajority at the Federal level and over 38 states.

Sometime by 2024 to 2028 election cycle they will be able to rewrite the Constitution through a Convention.

Once the RATS start using the bare majority rule to push through the largest theft in the history of human history, they will never stop raiding the seed corn, nor will they continue the charade of bipartisanship.

This bill is the last bill passed in the old Republic.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 12:22:43 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, it’s nice that you keep wanting to work within the system - as corrupt as it is. I guess that it would at least postpone the inevitable...


13 posted on 08/30/2009 12:24:13 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: JerseyHighlander

If they were to do so, they would have already done it. Obama is a busy man, capisce? He doesn’t have TIME to sell this stuff to America, get on the ball man!


14 posted on 08/30/2009 12:25:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: ncalburt
It is PAST time to rid our country of these commie propaganda rags!

The communists must go! They are killing our domestic life, and killing our troops overseas with their intell leaks.

How long will we let these vampires rule us?

15 posted on 08/30/2009 12:26:48 AM PDT by roses of sharon (Kennedy dared us to call his bluff, when we didn't, he made all of us complicit in what he had done.)
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To: Deagle

The Rats have proven so publicly incompetent, that we are more likely than not to see an all-GOP government in 2013. And their weightiest mandate will be to cut the bloomin’ deficit, double time. Out the window with Obamacare.


16 posted on 08/30/2009 12:27:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Sorry to say that you just about have it nailed. It’s going to take a Constitutional change or a revolution to change the way things are going these days... I doubt that the people have the courage to do either...


17 posted on 08/30/2009 12:28:34 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: roses of sharon

These rags are all going to go under in a year or so.


18 posted on 08/30/2009 12:28:47 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

Do it you morons.

Much of the public will beyond pissed.


19 posted on 08/30/2009 12:31:10 AM PDT by DB
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I don't recall the NYT expressing "regret" when the Republicans were suggesting the go-it-alone "nuclear option" over judicial nominations.

-PJ

20 posted on 08/30/2009 12:40:44 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Comprehensive congressional reform legislation only yields incomprehensible bills that nobody reads.)
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