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Official: LA-Area Fire Human-Caused ("Station Fire")
upi.com ^ | Sept. 2, 2009 | staff

Posted on 09/02/2009 1:22:11 PM PDT by kellynla

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1 posted on 09/02/2009 1:22:12 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ping


2 posted on 09/02/2009 1:22:43 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Well - let me be the first:

If this was a year ago, then we would be hearing “Bush’s Fault!”

But since the 0bamaMessiah is in office, we now can hear “it STILL must be Bush’s fault”.

Now I’m going to go puke.


3 posted on 09/02/2009 1:23:35 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: kellynla

I have always wondered how they can figure out how a fire started? What different sign is there from say spontaneous combustion, a lightning bolt, or a hot tail pipe?


4 posted on 09/02/2009 1:28:53 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: TheBattman

It’s actually Brush’s Fault, not Bush’s ;-)


5 posted on 09/02/2009 1:29:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: LukeL

They rely on when and where it is reported initially,, areas that are most suspect will be examined closely for telltale signs or evidence,, fire&forest forensic scientists.. could have just been a rock off of a mower blade ,, they’re pretty good at it. they get a lot of practice lately.


6 posted on 09/02/2009 1:32:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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7 posted on 09/02/2009 2:08:21 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: NormsRevenge; LukeL

I watch a couple of USFS Rangers down on their hands and knees on the side of a Freeway until they found a white ash remains of cigarette. The another fire they found a paper match folder set up to ignite when a match stuck in the side lite the rest. All that was left was ash but is was enough. Since the “Station Fire” was right up the road from
a USFS Fire Station the first crew there had a pretty good idea where the source started. A series of 4th of July sparklers thrown from a PU Truck started a half mile long string of fire. They found all 12 of the sparklers.


8 posted on 09/02/2009 2:10:29 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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I didn’t mean to say that the “Station Fire” was started by sparklers. I was trying to show another case of arson fire
where alot of work found the sources.


9 posted on 09/02/2009 2:16:27 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: kellynla
Thanks...will cross link with this thread I posted....:

NASA sat snaps LA wildfire ( Station Fire Just North of Los Angeles)

10 posted on 09/02/2009 2:21:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: kellynla; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Justaham; BurbankKarl; La Enchiladita; ...

Disgusting ping.


11 posted on 09/02/2009 2:25:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ernest, I was wondering if and when we would hear of a cause, as I didn’t recall hearing that info. I gather they still haven’t determined whether accidental or deliberate.


12 posted on 09/02/2009 3:12:20 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (My faith consoles me. St Therese, the Little Flower of Jesus, pray for us.)
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To: kellynla

I actually heard this days ago.
More specifics about this was that the fire was started not far from where there was a rest stop area for cars to stop.

The thing they have NOT been able to tell yet is whether it was an accident or something as sinister as terrorist.


13 posted on 09/03/2009 10:21:18 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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It was reported on KCAL 5 this a.m. that the source who claimed the fire was “humanly” started has backed off the claim and the investigation continues.

Bottom line. “if” the Feds had allowed us to cut the forestry back over the years we might have saved the lives of two Firefighters, almost 100 homes and who knows how many millions of dollars to fight the fires.

14 posted on 09/03/2009 10:49:53 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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It was reported on KCAL 5 this a.m. that the source who claimed the fire was “humanly” started has backed off the claim and the investigation continues.

Hah! Whatever the cause is, officials are very tight-lipped about it!!

15 posted on 09/03/2009 11:37:31 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (My faith consoles me. St Therese, the Little Flower of Jesus, pray for us.)
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To: La Enchiladita
"Whatever the cause is, officials are very tight-lipped about it!!" yep...

I am just very upset that the majority of the damage to life(my grandfather was a Fire Captain) & property that these fires have caused over the years could have been prevented “if” the gov’t had allowed us to “clearcut” the forestry.

“stupid is as stupid does.”

16 posted on 09/03/2009 11:47:17 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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Bottom line. “if” the Feds had allowed us to cut the forestry back over the years we might have saved the lives of two Firefighters, almost 100 homes and who knows how many millions of dollars to fight the fires.

It's not forest, it's scrub. There's no economic value to it and thinning it over the hundreds of thousands of acres of the San Gabriels, with it's steep hillsides, would be hugely expensive, dangerous and difficult.

17 posted on 09/03/2009 11:53:06 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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“There’s no economic value to it and thinning it over the hundreds of thousands of acres of the San Gabriels, with it’s steep hillsides, would be hugely expensive, dangerous and difficult.”

Every heard of GOATS!


18 posted on 09/03/2009 11:56:50 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Have you ever been in the San Gabriels? I didn't think so, because your description of it "...it's scrub." is wildly inaccurate. I know, I've been in them mountains many times.

SZ

19 posted on 09/03/2009 11:57:28 AM PDT by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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To: kellynla

I have come to learn over the years that our terrain is unique. Although there is pine, there are a variety of other low-growing plants: ceanothus, manzanita, sage, oak, etal. This, combined with rugged mountain terrain, poses a challenge to clearing. As mentioned by another poster, even weather conditions enter in as a factor in when to clear. This is an early “fire season.”


20 posted on 09/03/2009 12:35:28 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (My faith consoles me. St Therese, the Little Flower of Jesus, pray for us.)
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