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On Bullying, Costco Disconnects from Reality
American Thinker ^ | September 7, 2009 | Ed Kaitz

Posted on 09/07/2009 4:29:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

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This is why my kids have been taught self defense by an instructor who believes in no mercy.


61 posted on 09/07/2009 11:09:55 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Kaslin

given “no hitting” zero tolerance in schools today, kids can just tease mercilessly

and if you punch someone taunting you then you are in trouble

you are instructed to go tell...

it’s really bad, I see how meterosexuals were created

first they hold 75% of white boys back at pre-first and then this shite over and over

my oldest boy has punched folks being mean to him twice and calling him country because he refuses to wigger up and he gets in trouble...they fear him and hide behind the teacher

you should see me in the principal’s office

the culture was so much better when I was a boy


62 posted on 09/07/2009 11:11:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (Bro has stumbled mightily but the media will rebuild him....)
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To: Kaslin

The Chairman and President of Costco are big buck Dem supporters. So this fits.


63 posted on 09/07/2009 11:12:31 AM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
There are alot of kids who can’t, and if they ever tried the bully would thump them even harder, for longer.

That's where baseball bats, 2x4s, coin rolls in socks, and pieces of furniture come in...

Paul Kersey for President!

64 posted on 09/07/2009 11:15:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

My son was getting picked on a couple of years ago by the “class bully”. Just verbal stuff, but it bothered him a lot. We helped him work out some ideas, but after having him talking to the kid, avoiding the kid, etc. didn’t work we all figured talking to the teacher about it was best. (My son didn’t want to be a “snitch”, but we promised it would be confidential).

The teacher had known something was going on but didn’t think it was all that bad. When she heard our story she was able to put the pieces together of what she had seen - with other kids too. The bully and his parents were brought into a meeting with the teacher and were told if there was one more complaint the bully was out of school (it was a select program).

The kid did fine afterwards, lots of deeper family issues, etc. But - he needed to have it shown to him what behaviour was expected of him, and that there would be serious consequences if that behaviour was not met.

Sometimes the serious consequence is a bloody nose. Other times it is getting kicked out of school. My son and the ex-bully now seek each other out for class projects, etc.


65 posted on 09/07/2009 11:25:15 AM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: Kaslin

I think I took Kalman’s approach as a kid and I was never bullied. Brief unpleasant encounters once in a great while, but never any persistence to it. I still step in between guys that are huffing and puffing from time to time; stay away from bars and you find most people don’t reall want to fight, I think.


66 posted on 09/07/2009 12:11:18 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: dsc

Here’s what he looks like.

That’s a picture of him in the book “Victim-Proof Your School”

http://www.bullies2buddies.com/Victim-Proof-Your-School-Anti-Bullying-Program


67 posted on 09/07/2009 12:50:42 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kaslin

"Welcome to Costco, I love you."

68 posted on 09/07/2009 12:53:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin
That turn the other cheek thing is complete horse puckey.

Turn the bully's tactic back on himself, and he'll find some other target that's easier. Not very heroic, LOL, but effective self-preservation.
69 posted on 09/07/2009 1:52:09 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Freedom is taken, not given.)
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To: wardaddy
told mine to do what he needed if bullied...I will back him vs schools or parents etc...

the stipulation was that if he didnt have cause for fighting, it was gonna be his a@@...

no probs...

70 posted on 09/07/2009 2:32:09 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Kevmo

A person would have to go pretty far to convince me that this bearded shrinkster is a conservative.


71 posted on 09/07/2009 3:27:03 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We must remember that “The Karate Kid” was fantasy.


72 posted on 09/07/2009 3:29:19 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Uncle Ike
” “If kids hit you and you’re not hurt, act like nothing happened. This way you look tough and cool because you don’t get upset over nonsense. If they keep hitting or pushing you, ask them calmly, ‘Are you mad at me?’ If they aren’t, they’ll stop hitting you. If they are angry, they’ll tell you why. You can discuss the matter, apologize if appropriate, and they will also stop hitting you.” “

What lunatic wrote this garbage?! HIT THEM BACK HARDER THAN THEY HIT YOU! They will then leave you alone or get their *sses beat!

73 posted on 09/07/2009 3:30:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“he felt even more pathetic and weak because the bully was able to overpower him so easily. And, naturally, the bully has stepped up his onslaught.”

Well, yeah, the sine qua non of this approach is the assumption that, when you fight back, you deal the bully some serious pain. Even if you then lose the fight.

If the kid that is being bullied cannot do that, then either someone needs to do it on his behalf, or adults need to step in with strong sanctions that also protect the weaker kid from the bully.


74 posted on 09/07/2009 3:34:02 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

I’m proceeding from what & how he presented. If he’s a liberal, he’s a smart one, stealing conservative principles where it suits him.


75 posted on 09/07/2009 4:24:17 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kaslin
A pre-60s "fight the bully" lesson....


76 posted on 09/07/2009 9:40:10 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I am only ONE of many real Jim Thompsons, yet I am ONE.)
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To: Gilbo_3; Travis McGee; dixiechick2000

it’s vexing though..btw ..principal is a peach...very conservative, I prefer not to make her life difficult

when I was a kid and you ran yer mouth you had to cash the check..not now..kids tease him for refusing to wigger up and if he punches them (like he has twice) then he gets in trouble

it sux

they fear him but they know he is neutered a bit now...by rules which simply did not exist in my day, you could only tease folks who did not fight back

women run schools now and they just don’t get that..most anyhow

oh well...I feel sorry for him.


77 posted on 09/07/2009 9:44:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (Bro has stumbled mightily but the media will rebuild him....)
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To: Uncle Ike

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled On Bullying, Costco Disconnects from Reality, Uncle Ike wrote:
” “If kids hit you and you’re not hurt, act like nothing happened. This way you look tough and cool because you don’t get upset over nonsense. If they keep hitting or pushing you, ask them calmly, ‘Are you mad at me?’ If they aren’t, they’ll stop hitting you. If they are angry, they’ll tell you why. You can discuss the matter, apologize if appropriate, and they will also stop hitting you.” “

Obama/Hillary foreign policy, in a nutshell.....

Wow what an astute analogy!


78 posted on 09/08/2009 1:08:19 AM PDT by yeetch! (The end is near.)
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To: Kaslin; Quix; Joya

Thanks.

Qx ping.

= = =
Excerpt from article,

‘On a recent Tuesday afternoon I sat down with Professor Foley to get his opinion on both the bullying issue and on the non-violent approach to bullying advocated by Kalman and Coloroso. For those of us with small children Foley’s words on this score were refreshing, insightful, and very, very wise.

‘Foley began by telling me that he himself was relentlessly bullied by a hulking man-child while in the seventh grade. “I tried everything” says Foley, “talking to him, ignoring him, evading him, but nothing worked – he followed me everywhere.” On the bus, the bully would flick Foley behind the ear with his finger and if Foley moved to another seat, the bully followed him and continued the attack.

‘One afternoon Foley decided to walk home, hoping to protect the brand new trumpet his mother had worked long hours to purchase. But the bully caught up with Foley near his house and after a series of taunts and shoves the bully kicked Foley’s brand new trumpet case down the road. When Foley reached the scuffed and damaged case he immediately turned around and put everything he had into a wild, windmill roundhouse punch and knocked the bully unconscious and clean off of his feet.

‘Of that day Foley remembers a couple of things: a voice coming from a porch nearby asking Foley if he’d “like to learn how to control that rage.” The voice came from a retired Air Force Colonel and martial arts expert who became Foley’s first instructor. The second thing Foley recalls is that the bully never bothered him again. “His attitude changed” says Foley. “He actually started doing his schoolwork.”

‘For years parents have deposited both the bullies and the bullied at the entrance to Foley’s martial art’s academy so he understands the dynamic that animates both sides. “Kids who get hit and who don’t respond will lose respect for themselves,” says Foley. “They’ll sneak around, worry day and night, and generally think their lives are worthless.” Many of these kids, says Foley, will end up at best with extreme self-esteem issues and at worst with a deep seated vengeance of the kind America witnessed at Columbine High School ten years ago.

‘Foley disputes Kalman’s and Coloroso’s more Gandhiesque approach to bullying by saying that for young children life basically revolves around a rather simple scorecard called “fight or flight.” In other words, kids who are bullied, much to the dismay of our therapeutic experts, rarely if ever care about reforming the bullies. What they do care about is self-respect.

...

‘Having watched this amazing community organizer at work, a parent can only wonder: wouldn’t a campus warrior do as much for our kids in the long run as a campus psychotherapist?’

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/on_bullying_costco_disconnects.html


79 posted on 09/12/2009 6:41:09 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Joya

THANKS THANKS.


80 posted on 09/12/2009 7:44:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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