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Geithner Tells Town Hall: 'We Have to Change Things'
CNBC ^ | Thursday, 10 Sep 2009 | By: Jeff Cox

Posted on 09/10/2009 11:11:47 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner offered a spirited defense of the government's efforts to forestall another Great Depression but cautioned that the recovery would be slow and painful.

"We understood how bad this was—how damaging this was—and we did things that people were incredibly critical of because we knew that this was getting away from us," Geithner told a special CNBC town hall meeting Thursday.

In the wide-ranging session, which took place nearly a year to the day after the failure of Lehman Brothers and the implosion of the nation's financial system, Geithner said the country needs not only to fix what is broken but also take preventive measures against a similar collapse happening again.

"We have to have much stronger rules of the game in place with much stronger constraints on how much risk can take place," he said. "People are so angry. They have had this searing experience that caused so much damage and I think generally people understand that we're going to have to change things. We can't let things go back to the way they were."

Asked whether the Federal Reserve and Treasury acted too slowly when the financial system began collapsing and if it intervened too much once it got involved, Geithner rejected both assertions.

"It feels unfair and unjust, but look at what happens if you take too much risk," he said. "If you indulge the sentiment that you can stall the crisis by teaching people a lesson, you're going to make the crisis dramatically worse and you're going to make it much more expensive to solve."

By the same token, he said the government is anxious to shed itself of stakes in various financial companies—Citigroup [C 4.75 0.09 (+1.93%) ] and American International Group [AIG 37.85 -1.04 (-2.67%) ] among others—but won't do so before the timing is right.

"We're going to be careful not to withdraw too soon," Geithner said. "The classic mistake that countries make in crises is they put the brakes on too early, they reignite the recession ultimately at much greater fiscal costs and much greater damage to the economy. That's the balance we've got to get right."

The bailouts for what he called systemically important companies have worked out well so far, at least in terms of return on investment. Of the $200 billion the government has pumped in from a variety of liquidity programs, it has seen a return of $80 billion so far.

"That money goes to reduce how much we have to borrow and it means that we have more resources available to do the necessary things our country needs," he said. "We're getting a pretty good return on those investments so far."

The town hall setting gave Geithner a chance to speak freely just a few hours after he faced a sometimes-hostile round of questioning from the Congressional Oversight Panel in charge of monitoring the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program.

See Video: Final Words from the Geithner See Video: America's Borrowing Binge As for the economy, Geithner projected continued high levels of unemployment and tepid growth.

He chose to avoid making definitive statements about whether a tax increase was in the cards to help trim down the deficit. But he reiterated Obama's pledge during a speech to the nation Wednesday night that there would not be a tax hike to pay for health care reform.

"Right now, if you’re worried as most Americans should be about how we’re going to afford these things in the future, how we’re going to get back to a point we’re living in our means, the most important thing now, we can do, is to get this economy back to where we’re growing; where firms are investing again; people are creating jobs again," he said.

"And when we do that, the world needs to understand, Americans need to understand that we’re going to bring those deficits down. And that means we’re going to have to bring our commitments and our resources closer into balance."

Also in keeping with Obama's speech, Geithner used the opportunity to take a few jabs at the Bush administration for overspending.

Click here for the latest economic news "We can't ever again do what we did over the last many years, which is to go out and commit to huge expensive tax cuts without paying for them, or to go finance two wars without paying for them, to go finance a huge expansion of Medicare without paying for it," he said.

Setting things right, he said, won't be easy.

"We're going to make progress," he said. "It's not going to be even and quick. I think things are going to feel just hard, unacceptably hard, for a long period of time. But because want to fix this right, it's going to take a while."


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1 posted on 09/10/2009 11:11:47 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
"He chose to avoid making definitive statements about whether a tax increase was in the cards to help trim down the deficit. But he reiterated Obama's pledge during a speech to the nation Wednesday night that there would not be a tax hike to pay for health care reform."

LIAR

2 posted on 09/10/2009 11:15:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Hey Timmy, next April, focus on paying your damn taxes this time Ok


3 posted on 09/10/2009 11:16:57 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yeah, some of “we” certainly have to learn to change things....like admitting that spending money “we” don’t have will not get “we” out of debt, eh Turbo Tax man?


4 posted on 09/10/2009 11:20:29 PM PDT by cranked
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To: goodnesswins
But he reiterated Obama's pledge during a speech to the nation Wednesday night that there would not be a tax hike to pay for health care reform."

[on a regional TV show here in Montana, "Face the State"]

Max Baucus said that there was no provision for illegals getting health care under "the bill". His reasoning was that there was NO FUNDING FOR IT! (well, gee Max, couldn't THAT change?)

5 posted on 09/10/2009 11:24:47 PM PDT by This_far (I am Joe Wilson... Obama lies/lied)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"We understood how bad this was—how damaging this was—and we did things that people were incredibly critical of because we knew that this was getting away from us," Geithner told a special CNBC town hall meeting Thursday.

Haven't Obama and his minions been telling us for months that they had no idea how bad it was. I think they are still saying that.

6 posted on 09/10/2009 11:41:15 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Want to work? Don't join a union. Want to make money and not work? Join a union.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Also in keeping with Obama's speech, Geithner used the opportunity to take a few jabs at the Bush administration for overspending.

This is something like Bernie Madoff angrily denouncing the crime of shoplifting.

7 posted on 09/10/2009 11:43:46 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"...the most important thing now, we can do, is to get this economy back to where we’re growing; where firms are investing again; people are creating jobs again,"

How can firms invest and jobs get created if the banks won't lend any money??

The credit crunch is deep and extreme. It's very, very difficult to get any kind of business loan or mortgage, and credit limits are being cut to the bone for millions of borrowers.

This sort of talk by Geithner seems like a fantasy. They're going to have to go to Plan B and figure out a way to get the banks to loan money again, or this economy is eventually going to grind to a complete stop.
8 posted on 09/11/2009 12:06:28 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yeah!

People shouldn’t be allowed to get away with tax fraud like I did. :)


9 posted on 09/11/2009 12:18:47 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Geithner Tells Town Hall: 'We Have to Change Things'

We can start with getting back to the rule of law after your boss is ridden out of town on a rail.

10 posted on 09/11/2009 12:37:54 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (The way to destroy a countercultural movement is to have white people start liking it.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

There will be enough rope for this scumbag too!!


11 posted on 09/11/2009 12:38:50 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (We knew a revolution was coming, but who knew it would be started by rowdy senior citizens! lol...)
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To: Jet Jaguar; ex-Texan
Poor little tax cheat Timmy, Big Banking's messenger boy, looks sooooo upset. What will his bosses think at Goldman Sachs? For compensation to sooth poor Timmy's shattered nerves, while being confronted with the truth concerning his treasonous financial high crimes, some additional tax-funded briefcases, in Euros & Swiss Francs, deposited in his numerous, top secret, offshore accounts -- for starters, via Obama Inc., Chicago style.

"What am I going to say to con the dumb sheeple?"

12 posted on 09/11/2009 12:53:26 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Pay your $%^&# taxes and shut up!


13 posted on 09/11/2009 2:45:27 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Asked whether the Federal Reserve and Treasury acted too slowly when the financial system began collapsing and if it intervened too much once it got involved, Geithner rejected both assertions. "It feels unfair and unjust, but look at what happens if you take too much risk," he said. "If you indulge the sentiment that you can stall the crisis by teaching people a lesson, you're going to make the crisis dramatically worse and you're going to make it much more expensive to solve." By the same token, he said the government is anxious to shed itself of stakes in various financial companies -- Citigroup [C 4.75 0.09 (+1.93%) ] and American International Group [AIG 37.85 -1.04 (-2.67%) ] among others -- but won't do so before the timing is right.
Thanks Jet Jaguar.
14 posted on 09/11/2009 3:00:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: denydenydeny

Gypse, Tramp & Thief Turbo Tax Timmy.


15 posted on 09/11/2009 3:15:29 AM PDT by crazyotto
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To: SkyPilot
Tax cheats are a dime a dozen within president wee wee’s circle of friends and appointees.
16 posted on 09/11/2009 3:18:11 AM PDT by tiger63
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yes we do need to change things, in 2010


17 posted on 09/11/2009 3:18:16 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (THE NEW GREEN IS THE OLD RED! ML)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“I think things are going to feel just hard, unacceptably hard, for a long period of time...”

What a pity 0bama didn’t campaign with that slogan.


18 posted on 09/11/2009 3:26:13 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: M. Espinola
This Maxine Waters video is hilarious. But true. Waters admits she follows a socialist agenda:

Waters Revealed Obama's Marxist Agenda During Questioning of Shell Oil Executive

We are being led by a bunch of turncoats and greedy back-stabbing NWO socialists. Geithner is a member of a gang of Federal Reserve Thugs. He is funding the government right down the drain.

19 posted on 09/11/2009 3:27:17 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yup—concentrate on paying your fair share for once, Mr Turbo Tax man. Can’t believe this tax cheat has the job.


20 posted on 09/11/2009 3:31:01 AM PDT by Achilles Heel
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