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Kent Conrad (D-ND) and the "Annie Hall" Theory of Health Care Reform (Good News)
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Posted on 09/16/2009 3:23:12 PM PDT by TroutGuy

Kent Conrad is chairman of the Senate Budget Committee and one of the chamber's loudest, and most powerful, deficit hawks. On Tuesday, for instance, he directed the Congressional Budget Office to score the impact of health-care reform over a 20-year time frame, rather than the traditional 10 years. This is a tougher fiscal test than any bill has had to pass in memory. You could see this as a good thing. Reformers sometimes argue that health-care reform's true impact on the cost curve will be seen over the long term. If CBO's scores reflected that, Conrad's demand could be a boon to reform. But Conrad doesn't appear to believe the scores will reflect that. He called the CBO's scoring of the bill's cost controls "stingy," and predicted that "the savings will be greater than CBO is showing." In other words, he thinks the CBO is underestimating the savings that reform will deliver, but he wants to see those savings underestimated over a longer period of time, which will make the total gap between the revenues the CBO predicts and the savings it misses appear larger. It's a bit like the restaurant review from "Annie Hall": The food was terrible, and such small portions! The end result is likely to be a new hurdle for health-care reform: a CBO report that makes the bill's total cost sound higher, as it's measured over 20 years, and its savings seem smaller, as they're underestimated over 20 years. The Huffington Post caught up with Conrad and asked him whether this would kill the reform effort. "No," he replied, "but it makes it more challenging." The question is why Conrad wants to make health-care reform more challenging.

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It's good to see that we have some Dem Senators who care about this country's fiscal future. Obama has been trying to work the numbers on health care reform by delaying benefits until 2013 and collecting tax money right away. That makes the 10 year cost estimates lower, but it's a willful fraud on the American people. It sounds like Kent Conrad just called Obama on this BS stunt, and I for one thank him for it. Conrad is one of the only fiscal conservatives in the Democratic party.
1 posted on 09/16/2009 3:23:12 PM PDT by TroutGuy
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To: TroutGuy

Is he up for election in 2010? He did not say ObamaCare is dead.


2 posted on 09/16/2009 3:29:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs & Glenn Beck- American Heroes! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: TroutGuy

I remember Kent being a major pain regarding the deficit when Bush was president, so if he shows to be one for TOTUS, he’ll be showing himself to be a true hawk.

I don’t think his solutions will be right—higher taxes—but at least he wants gubmint to spend less, maybe.


3 posted on 09/16/2009 3:29:58 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: TroutGuy
The Huffington Post caught up with Conrad and asked him whether this would kill the reform effort. "No," he replied, "but it makes it more challenging.

Translation: higher taxes.

4 posted on 09/16/2009 3:30:30 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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My congressman, Paul Ryan R-Wis, has already said that the CBO scoring of HR3200 shows that costs skyrocket after 2019. I can’t imagine the CBO would score the Senate bill any differently. This will be the final nail in the coffing for THIS reform. But since we do need some reform, I hope they will begin to listen to conservatives. But I’m not counting on it!


5 posted on 09/16/2009 3:31:06 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: TroutGuy

La ti da, la ti da!


6 posted on 09/16/2009 3:34:23 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Trust but Verify

It’s not that the costs will skyrocket after 2019, it the way the bill is structured. You see, the taxes and fees kick in immediately while the expenditures don’t start for three to five years. In effect, the CBO saw 10 years of revenue and only five years of costs.

In effect, what Conrad did was partially lift this fiscal veil. If you look at 20 years, then you see 20 years of revenue and fifteen years of costs.


7 posted on 09/16/2009 3:44:45 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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8 posted on 09/16/2009 7:02:18 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: DugwayDuke
In effect, what Conrad did was partially lift this fiscal veil. If you look at 20 years, then you see 20 years of revenue and fifteen years of costs.

I have to wonder if they factor in the "if I'm paying, I'm playing" factor.

IOW, if I have to pay out of pocket, I'm parsimonious about going to the doctor; if I'm paying premiums, I'm more likely to go in order to "get some value" out those payments: therefore, greater per capita usage and resultant higher payouts.

9 posted on 09/16/2009 7:12:34 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Racist" and proud of it! I discriminate against Homo Liberalcuss at all times.)
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