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Democrats to Obama: Um, what exactly are we getting for selling out Poland to Russia?
hotair.com ^ | September 17, 2009 | September 17, 2009

Posted on 09/18/2009 5:44:31 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

What are you getting? You’re getting the same thing you got when he sold out Honduras to Chavez over that non-coup “coup” they staged: The warm fuzzy glow of knowing that George Bush would heartily disapprove.

But some members of Obama’s own party, however, had a simple question for the administration: if this was a return to realism, and a concession to Russia’s long and vocal opposition to the missile program, what, exactly, was the U.S. getting in return for fundamentally changing it?

And almost certainly, the answer leads back to Iran… But Russia has given no ground on those questions, with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov bluntly opposing tougher sanctions. And Medvedev suggested Thursday that any new American political capital would be more likely go toward the longer-term Obama Administration goal of deep cuts to the two countries’ nuclear weapons stocks… “If they wanted to engage in a process of negotiation over this they should have been transparent with the Polish and the Czech governments,” said Randy Scheunemann, the top foreign policy advisor to the presidential campaign of Senator John McCain, who said cancelling the missiles in the countries was “seriously misguided.”

“Unilateral preemptive concession in the hope that your negotiating partners will follow suit? Anyone who believes that will work with Russia hasn’t looked at 70 years of Soviet history and 200 years of Russian history,” Scheunemann said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: amateur; bho44; democrats; fubo; ge; impeach; iran; morganstanley; obama; obamatruthfile; obamatruthfiles; russia
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To: NativeNewYorker

Wow! What did your teach say?


21 posted on 09/18/2009 6:01:57 AM PDT by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: RatsDawg

Barack got a case of Vodka for selling out Poland. he immediately called MA Speaker Bob DeLeo and told him he’d send a couple of bottles if they get a Kennedy in the Senate.


22 posted on 09/18/2009 6:04:30 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: PowerPro

I can’t believe I just read that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/managementIssues/idUSLH50324420090917

So 0bama ensured campaign money from these companies while he rendered our national security as weak?

We have no jobs. People are suffering in Ca. because of fish bait and the environ whackos shutting off their water and 0bama makes business deals in the name of national security?

Impeach

ment


23 posted on 09/18/2009 6:04:32 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: Huebolt

Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama

Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko

"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"

http://www.france24.com/en/20090402-russias-medvedev-hails-comrade-obama

April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090401/wl_afp/usrussiadiplomacynuclear_20090401152002
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President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad

Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97KK2T00&show_article=1

24 posted on 09/18/2009 6:05:03 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I want to know why I am seeing headlines that say “Obama Strengthens General Electric-Putin Ties.”

Somehow, this must have something to do with the missile defense system as well.


25 posted on 09/18/2009 6:05:23 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: ETL
What exactly are the Russians doing compared to what our own government is doing to destroy America? If the Russians wanted to support terrorism, believe me, we would have had a HELL OF A LOT MORE than just 911!

Our support of the taliban in Afghanistan against the Russians was a total disaster for which we are still paying. What makes you think further conflict with the Russians is a sure winner?

26 posted on 09/18/2009 6:05:42 AM PDT by Huebolt (Democrat = (national socialist) = NAZI)
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To: Patrsup

He owns it. He owns what Iran does. He owns what Russia does. He owns what happens with Poland and the Czech Republic. There will be blood shed, and he will own that, too.


27 posted on 09/18/2009 6:06:24 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: ETL

I am glad someone has remembered and documented what this is all about. The only remaining question is, did we sell Poland and the Czech Republic down the river from inexperience and naivetivity, or for even more sinister reasons?


28 posted on 09/18/2009 6:10:20 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Front Page of Drudge indicates that carl levin IS WRONG in the quote below. Can I quote Obama here..

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAFF5RbfUd4 - video of the Jackass comment)

“The decision announced Thursday morning followed late-night phone calls to Czech and Polish officials, and at least one senior Democrat — Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) — said those countries had no problem with the decision.”


29 posted on 09/18/2009 6:13:40 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

We don’t know what we are getting, but the Poles know what they are getting. The shaft. Drudge shows the Polish newspaper Fakt with the headline “Zdrada!” “Betrayal!

“A stab in the back” the newspaper adds. This references the day, September 17, that Obama chose to make his move, the 70th anniversary of an earlier stab in the back when Poland, reeling from the Nazi invasion from the west, was stabbed in the back by the Russian attack from the east.

Another Polish newspaper, Gazeta Wyborcza, reports that their Prime Minister Donald Tusk refused to take Obama’s phone call. The Czech Prime Minister said that the USA cannot be considered a “safe” ally.


30 posted on 09/18/2009 6:16:13 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: shaft29
Didn’t Netanyahu have a “secret meeting” with Russia last week?

That was my first thought when I heard the news about trashing the missile defense.

31 posted on 09/18/2009 6:16:31 AM PDT by what's up
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To: RatsDawg
The conversation took place as I took him to school this morning. As he's seen me post to FR, my politics and perspective aren't new to him.

He paused for a moment, and said "It seems like they don't have to push anymore...the rock is rolling down the hill all by itself."

In other words, even a high schooler sees the momentum running in favor of the folks selling us out.

32 posted on 09/18/2009 6:16:44 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: La Lydia
...did we sell Poland and the Czech Republic down the river from inexperience and naivetivity, or for even more sinister reasons?

In other words, is Obama stupid or evil? I say, BOTH!

33 posted on 09/18/2009 6:18:10 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: ETL

Obama is weak. Any other POTUS but Carter would have not called Russia’s bluff.

Obama did and ran scared because he does not want anymore nuke build up.

Besides... 0bama appointed himself chairman of the U.N. so we will all sing kumbaya when the dollar is rendered -useless soon- and 0bama will have some cool new word for NWO/globalization.

We will all live in peace on earth and fly unicorns through our woods all day.


34 posted on 09/18/2009 6:20:57 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: La Lydia
"Total nuclear disarmament", Obama, Russia and the commie left
various sources

Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 12:51:21 PM ET by ETL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2285983/posts

35 posted on 09/18/2009 6:22:44 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Obama is weak. Any other POTUS but Carter would have not called Russia’s bluff. Obama did and ran scared because he does not want anymore nuke build up

Don't you people understand that the longtime goal of the commie left is to destroy the United States? Please see the link I last posted regarding the commie left and "total nuclear disarmament".

36 posted on 09/18/2009 6:26:07 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I wonder if the Russians got their hands on the Kenyan birth certificate.


37 posted on 09/18/2009 6:26:16 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Hussein is like most of the derelicts that are inhabiting the administration currently. He understands that if he does this stuff in daylight with some sort of notice that people will preempt him and the hue and cry would be prohibitive. I wouldn’t take a call from a Clinton at night if my house was on fire. It has to do with principals - if we allow them to speak for us - they will continue to do that and say what they desire. Remember the way to handle these kind of people is to denigrate them at every opportunity because they only are important when people think they are. Ridicule their names at ever opportunity - point out their issues - personally I think the worst insult you can to make to one of them is that they have no integrity. But, I guess lack of integrity is a plus in the Democrat party.

“You’re never beaten until you admit it.” - General George S. Patton, Jr


38 posted on 09/18/2009 6:27:13 AM PDT by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Dear Poland,
I am sorry 0bama has sold you out,
he has done the same to us.
Regards,
America


39 posted on 09/18/2009 6:27:36 AM PDT by two23 (czars are for commies)
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To: Huebolt
What exactly are the Russians doing compared to what our own government is doing to destroy America?

They're now working together to achieve that same goal.

40 posted on 09/18/2009 6:27:38 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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