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Interesting note posted today re Judge Land and Obama 'discovery'

Posted on 09/21/2009 7:03:17 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

Leon Brozyna Says: September 21st, 2009 at 4:09 am

Dr. Taitz:

In perusing a number of web sites and commentary on the Rhodes case and the latest results, I find that the comments generally fall into two groups —

*** 1 - the judge is terrible and the ruling is an injustice.

*** 2 - the judge is correct in properly smacking down Orly.

I suggest that there is a third possibility that exists that no one seems to have publicly mentioned — that Judge Land is brilliant by handing down a deliberately inflammatory ruling bordering on judicial misconduct thereby inviting Rule 11 discovery.

Just think about it for a minute.

If Judge Land had granted the TRO, the case might have dragged on for months before getting to the discovery phase. On the other hand, the judge could have dispassionately denied the TRO by narrowly interpreting the law in favor of the defendants and Cpt Rhodes would have deployed to Iraq, making further motions moot.

By ruling as he did, as though he was having a judicial melt-down, it seems he has practically handed you an engraved invitation to submit a motion for Rule 11 discovery. Did he do this deliberately in the hope that you would take this route? We’ll never know. Even if this case blows up in Obama’s face, Judge Land’s thought processes may remain forever hidden (unless he has his memoirs published after he retires or dies). The point is that you now have, in this case, the best possibility to go for discovery - perhaps even better than in the case pending before Judge Carter. Craft your arguments carefully - Obama’s defense team may come to really hate Judge Land for his seeming melt-down.

Another thought - there was an earlier case in which the judge dismissed plaintiff’s motion and referred to blogs, the internet, twittering, etc. in his ruling. Made quite a splash when the ruling was handed down. I believe the case is still out on appeal - may have tried for rule 11 discovery based on judge’s conduct. Something else you may want to look into after you’ve responded to defendant’s motion before Judge Carter.

Everything seems to be coming together. The next few weeks may just turn out to be the most important in our Republic’s history. Our prayers are with you.

Leon Brozyna CW2, USA (Ret)


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To: cycle of discernment

This is a porton of Orly’s reply to denial:

“The fact that the court’s 14 page order does not address any actual statements in plaintiff’s complaint by page or paragraph number, or any page citation to her TRO, suggests to a reasonable and objective mind that the court either did not read these documents or was summarily instructed by that same illegitimate ‘chain of command’ alleged above not to address [the questions,]” the motion said.

The motion described the judge’s decision as “manifestly unjust and incorrect.”

“Dem’s fightin’ werds” ! ! ! Hope it doesn’t back fire !


21 posted on 09/21/2009 8:51:53 AM PDT by rocco55
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To: cycle of discernment

Has any lawyer communicated to ORLY of this ? is she aware of this ?


22 posted on 09/21/2009 9:14:07 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: cycle of discernment

What is it you think “Rule 11 discovery” means?


23 posted on 09/21/2009 9:51:12 AM PDT by mlo
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To: jwparkerjr

Kathleen Turner was a major babe. She hasn’t weathered well, alcohol problems.

I can’t help you with the other movie, not ringing any bells.


24 posted on 09/21/2009 9:57:48 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet!)
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To: wxgesr

She also has rheumatoid arthritis.


25 posted on 09/21/2009 9:59:37 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Owww, that’ll do it.


26 posted on 09/21/2009 10:03:25 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet!)
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To: cycle of discernment; pissant

PING


27 posted on 09/21/2009 10:05:55 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Frantzie
If she can go down that path she need the help of a competent attorney.

According what I heard and seen, she says she has a slew of other attorneys working for her. I can't picture this a one-man-(woman)-show, her being all over the map???

However, it is good to know, at least, that we have so many competent armchair keyboard jurisprudence commandos here on FR weighing in on this case to "slap" down a foreign and not at least a female PATRIOT, who has balls. I sent her 50 bucks last month and will do same this month. You all go and do the same if you want her to succeed, instead of tear her down!!!

28 posted on 09/21/2009 10:06:54 AM PDT by danamco
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To: r9etb

An “After-Birther”???


29 posted on 09/21/2009 10:08:18 AM PDT by danamco
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To: rocco55
On Orly’s site, her reply is quite crude (I think she implied that the judge is taking an order to dismiss the case from the Commander in Chief himself, if I read it correctly).

Don't we now live in times where one has to be rude to get to the truth???

Remember the tactics the usurper himself used with the help of the Chicago "Godfather" gang to advance into the Illinois State house by crushing his opponent who had sealed records, hmmm!!!

30 posted on 09/21/2009 10:16:58 AM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco
However, it is good to know, at least, that we have so many competent armchair keyboard jurisprudence commandos here on FR weighing in on this case to "slap" down a foreign and not at least a female PATRIOT, who has balls. I sent her 50 bucks last month and will do same this month. You all go and do the same if you want her to succeed, instead of tear her down!!!

Sorry, pal ... when it comes to legal maneuvering (and repeated bungling of same), Orly Taitz has amply demonstrated that she is her own worst enemy.

31 posted on 09/21/2009 10:18:12 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

That is what I would call, your typically chauvinistic misguided opinion!!!


32 posted on 09/21/2009 10:22:02 AM PDT by danamco
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To: cycle of discernment
The problem with intelligent conservatives is that we tend to ascribe excessive intelligence to the actions of others, where simple malice or incompetence suffice as an explanation.

I believe it is rather difficult to underestimate most judges in any capacity, but especially in their capacity to default on the side of morality vs. legally pedantic process. Hence I believe it is simple to overestimate this judge's dedication to "doing the right thing".


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

33 posted on 09/21/2009 10:30:47 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: wxgesr

Yes, it’s a pretty awful disease.


34 posted on 09/21/2009 10:38:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: danamco

This is me, not giving a tinker’s damn about your hysterics.


35 posted on 09/21/2009 10:42:55 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: danamco

Some of the posters here are ACORN shills. I hope in court she has attorneys helping her. She also should have incorporated Leo’s suggestions on her case with Judge Carter. Leo found a huge opportunity there.

I am concerned that she will not listen to what experienced and competent attorneys tell her.


36 posted on 09/21/2009 11:06:38 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Jack Black

No top quality attorney would get near this case if they wanted to survive in the law profession and in human life in general.


37 posted on 09/21/2009 11:12:32 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: cycle of discernment; RonDog

Rondog could help answer this question as he is in contact with Rhodes.


38 posted on 09/21/2009 11:13:29 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Frantzie
I suggest that there is a third possibility that exists that no one seems to have publicly mentioned — that Judge Land is brilliant by handing down a deliberately inflammatory ruling bordering on judicial misconduct thereby inviting Rule 11 discovery.

This has been mentioned on FR.

39 posted on 09/21/2009 11:58:49 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Frantzie

I see you found the thread... :-)


40 posted on 09/21/2009 12:00:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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