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San Jose council votes to ban most plastic and paper bags beginning in 2011
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 22 September 2009 | Tracy Seipel

Posted on 09/22/2009 10:45:11 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

San Jose council votes to ban most plastic and paper bags beginning in 2011

The San Jose City Council on Tuesday voted to make the city the largest in the nation to ban most plastic and paper shopping bags — and took steps to bring other Santa Clara County cities along with them.

Although the ban approved Tuesday won't take effect until 2011 — and still must go through an environmental impact study that will require the council's final signoff — it's a major new front in the war on plastic bags, which environmentalists say foul waterways, clog landfills and threaten wildlife.

Banding together as a region, top elected officials from Morgan Hill to Palo Alto joined Mayor Chuck Reed on Tuesday in support of San Jose's ordinance, which would ban the distribution of free plastic shopping bags at all retailers.

"I'll step out and take the lead in the South Bay to eliminate the scourge of plastic bags," said Reed, who was also flanked by officials from Milpitas, Campbell and Santa Clara. The mayor has made "green" business the core of his economic development plan. Palo Alto's ban on single-use plastic bags went into effect last week, and San Francisco's ban has been in place since 2007. A ban in Oakland was shelved in the face of a lawsuit that claimed the city failed to adequately study its effects; the plastics industry has aggressively challenged bag bans in court.

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"Legal work needs to be done," Reed told the council. "Many other cities went ahead and got sued because they didn't do it right."

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: econazis; paperbags; plasticbags; sanjose
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To: LukeL

Mmmm


21 posted on 09/22/2009 10:59:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Wonder what McDonald's will use if this ban goes in effect? What else is there that is not cost prohibited? Boxes?
22 posted on 09/22/2009 10:59:42 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: LukeL

I particularly enjoy carrying paper bags in the rain /s

Also, living in SF, where I don’t get plastic bags anymore, it should come as no surprise that I now buy plastic bags, with the net result that:

- I have more (wasted) paper bags than I need
- Fewer plastic bags get reused, which means more get made since I buy them and
- I am out more money.


23 posted on 09/22/2009 11:01:23 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

is there a state law in CA requiring paper toilet seat covers be available in all public toilets? just curious as they were on my last visit. the ti/daughter is here from San Jose and she is complaining that we don’t have them in NY.

you guys certainly have your nanny staters in full force out there.


24 posted on 09/22/2009 11:03:12 PM PDT by tioga (Drip, Drip, Drip.......the ACORNS are falling.)
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To: FoxInSocks

Nobody regulated away paper bags to my knowledge. Plastic bags were simply much cheaper and easier.


25 posted on 09/22/2009 11:03:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: Marie2

I could not imagine living in San Francisco, it amazes me how plastic bags are top on their to do list, while there are certain fault zones which are decades or even centuries overdo for the next 7.0+ quake, not to mention terrorism and the terrible state of California’s economy.


26 posted on 09/22/2009 11:04:50 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I use my cloth bag and recycled plastic bags as much but sometimes I still need paper bags which I use again for trash.


27 posted on 09/22/2009 11:05:17 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: rawhide

McDonald’s paper is very biodegradable, almost too much so. If you order parfaits or something else very cold that sweats, be careful because the bottom can easily fall out of the damp sack.


28 posted on 09/22/2009 11:06:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The city should ban throw-away condoms.


29 posted on 09/22/2009 11:06:07 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: CounterCounterCulture

But if your buy a CD or even a tiny flash memory card it comes packaged in a pound of plastic.


30 posted on 09/22/2009 11:06:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Are you one of those "individual responsibility" people?)
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To: Tax Government

Not really.


31 posted on 09/22/2009 11:06:46 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Looks like a lot of people will be buying their groceries in another area.

Power hungry despots abound at home and abroad.

32 posted on 09/22/2009 11:07:45 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Tax Government

The proper term is “single-use” condoms. ;-)


33 posted on 09/22/2009 11:28:59 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: GeronL

Yesterday I had to open up those insanely packaged HP printer multi-cartridge packages. Scissors are mandatory to cut through all that plastic. Medication is far easier to open.


34 posted on 09/22/2009 11:32:05 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: tioga
Ugh, I don't know, but I never cared for those toilet seat covers and all they end up doing is clogging public restroom toilets. Indeed.
35 posted on 09/22/2009 11:35:05 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: LukeL

It is quite surreal here. Yet there are some very good people here, too.


36 posted on 09/22/2009 11:42:24 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Most of the packaging seems to be an anti-theft device. You have seen how tiny those flash cards are?


37 posted on 09/23/2009 12:14:15 AM PDT by GeronL (Are you one of those "individual responsibility" people?)
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To: LukeL
You are spot on! Another problem is where you place the cloth sacks. They will sooner or later sit on something very contaminated. That contamination will be transferred to your refrigerator and your pantry shelves. Soon it will be on your hands and in your dinner plate. This is a situation where you hope that trip through the wash machine and dryer has the ability to disinfect that cloth sack of sickness.
38 posted on 09/23/2009 12:27:30 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Great, freaking enviromentalists are putting more people out of jobs.


39 posted on 09/23/2009 12:38:06 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The plastic bags are already being recycled. What’s the problem with plastic shopping bags? What about the plastic garbage bags? What about the plastic packaging for such things as refrigerators, computers, and sacks of dog food? Are they going to ban sandwich bags we uses for our lunch?

This is a method to attack the distribution system of food. Next they will attack other parts of the system. Screw them!

What about the miles of shrink wrapping and plastic banding of the millions of pallets of products being transported by trucks to the loading docks of our stores? The distribution system will be attacked by these anti-capitalists as sure as my peanut butter sandwich.


40 posted on 09/23/2009 12:48:16 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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