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Suspected flag burner pilloried
timesunion.com ^ | Sept. 26, 2009 | BOB GARDINIER AND HUMBERTO MARTÍNEZ

Posted on 09/26/2009 10:12:55 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

VALLEY FALLS -- The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.

"He'll never disrespect the flag again, I can tell you that," Normile said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fightingwords; flagburning; happyending; traitor; vietnamvets
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1 posted on 09/26/2009 10:12:55 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Excellent!


2 posted on 09/26/2009 10:15:37 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Right Wing Extremists Assault Young Man.

Violated his Civil Rights. Holder is on it.

3 posted on 09/26/2009 10:16:13 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

humiliation doesn’t change anyone anymore — because it requires humility to be effective, and that’s in short supply these days. It’ll probably turn him into a shoe bomber.


4 posted on 09/26/2009 10:16:18 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (dear world: we are so sorry for Barack Hussein Obama. Can you ever forgive us? ** hang the Czars.)
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To: roaddog727

Pointless and stupid.


5 posted on 09/26/2009 10:17:49 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I like it! But instead of a choice, he should have had all 3 done to him!

On a similar note: I am afraid that vigilantism will become the law of the land soon, because the laws now give no justice. Had this perp been turned over to the constables, the ACLU would have been there in a heartbeat to "preserve his right to free expression" and the leftists would have carried him out of the jail on their shoulders.

Calm down Dubh! You're getting your BP up again....

6 posted on 09/26/2009 10:18:28 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No doubt some will laud this, but I find it despicable.


7 posted on 09/26/2009 10:19:14 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My Dad got one up in Columbus, Ohio in the sixties while I was away. Broad daylight, smacks the crap out of a guy desecrating a flag in an anti-war protest and leaves. We need more folks that remember what that flag represents!


8 posted on 09/26/2009 10:21:52 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Let the punishment fit the crime ...

I think it’s a good approach to let the perp choose his punishment.


9 posted on 09/26/2009 10:23:18 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

“I am afraid that vigilantism will become the law of the land soon”

I agree. How many people have confidence in our justice system? Not many, I think. It’s seeming more like the wild west all the time.


10 posted on 09/26/2009 10:23:18 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
"I like it! But instead of a choice, he should have had all 3 done to him!"

A fourth choice of being wrapped in the flag and set on fire would have been my suggestion.....

11 posted on 09/26/2009 10:24:16 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Stocks and Pillories...huzzah!


12 posted on 09/26/2009 10:24:20 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Melas

Hey, it was his choice.


13 posted on 09/26/2009 10:25:12 AM PDT by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire

Should have been prosecuted for burning (arson), theft (taking hold of someone else's property), nusiance (sp?) by creating greenhouse gases, etc., etc.

Myself, I wish we'd have a law that burning a U.S. flag is not only
a matter of "political speech", but also "fighting words".

And that a swift a$$-kicking is a legal response to those fighting words.
14 posted on 09/26/2009 10:25:23 AM PDT by VOA
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To: ElayneJ

“It’s seeming more like the wild west all the time.”

Which had a much lower crime rate than today.


15 posted on 09/26/2009 10:25:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: dr_who

IMOH it is neither pointless nor stupid. I majored criminology in college and there is a long history in the use and success of public shaming in behavior modification.


16 posted on 09/26/2009 10:27:01 AM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Righteous!


17 posted on 09/26/2009 10:28:39 AM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: Ladysmith

Technically, the choice itself was criminal extortion by threat of violence. So, no, not buying. The problem with vigilantism is that it begets retribution. At this point since the police are obviously in on it, who could blame a family member of this kid for going vigilante on the vigilantes which of course would beget retaliation in kind...


18 posted on 09/26/2009 10:28:47 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is there a reason that we don’t just make the flag out of fire resistant materials?


19 posted on 09/26/2009 10:29:38 AM PDT by Grunthor (Gun toting, Bible thumping Flag waver. According to the left, I am a racist.)
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To: VOA
And that a swift a$$-kicking is a legal response to those fighting words.

Exactly!

20 posted on 09/26/2009 10:29:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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