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Leo's Blog - Are they going to say there is no Long Form BC??
Vanity | 9-26-2009 | Frantzie

Posted on 09/27/2009 9:19:59 PM PDT by Frantzie

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/terrik-investigation-part-2-oip-staff-attorney-linden-joestings-response-to-terriks-appeal-appears-to-confirm-that-the-doh-maintains-amended-vital-records-for-president-obama/#comments

Descarte Says:

September 27, 2009 at 3:31 am Good work.Interesting article covered by Phil at RSOL.Even more interesting are some of the comments. http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=7364

[Ed. Holy Crap! Is this the new mantra? Are the main stream media, as of September 24 2009 now going to be telling the public that Obama has no long form BC?

From the Colorado Independent:

By Joseph Boven 9/24/09 3:40 PM

According to billboard owner Phil Wolf, Denver’s “birther boards” will go up mid-day today at Kipling and I-70 on the north side of frontage road. West-Denver commuters will be treated to compelling over-sized double-sided evidence that Americans love a distraction.

The ominous and compelling message: “Where is the birth certificate?”

The billboards are the work of talk radio host Peter Boyles, World Net Daily, and Mr. Wolf. They are part of nationwide right-wing campaign to force Pres. Obama to produce his original long-form birth certificate.

Experts have repeated time and again that the documents presented to the country and campaign officials are real and legitimate documents and that a “long-form certificate” does not exist.

"Experts have repeated time and again...that a 'long-form certificate' does not exist?"

WTF? Is this direct proof that we are getting somewhere in Hawaii? WTF? Hold onto your hats, your children, your passports... I think we are leaving Kansas for real Toto. I don't recall anyone ever admitting that Obama didn't have a long form BC. Something tells me the TerriK investigation is to blame for this new mantra which appears to have been dropped as a trial balloon on Sept 24. Get to work on the Colorado Independent. We need this story to be clarified. ]


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To: LucyT

Maybe it’s a Communist anniversary or Commie leader’s birthday they are celebrating? ;^)


21 posted on 09/27/2009 10:05:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

They may have all been on ACORN’s payroll and the money has been shut off or most of it at least.

They may pop up as employees of the new replacement ACORN front company.


22 posted on 09/27/2009 10:10:19 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: so_real

many lies are afoot

it is time to can

then put the cans in your storm cellar and be prepared for total collapse

did you know that grocery stores only have 3 days food on hand, max? It will only take 3 days.


23 posted on 09/27/2009 10:15:18 PM PDT by skipper18
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To: Frantzie
When we talk about the After-Birther's disappearing from the threads their ears start to ring as in here.
24 posted on 09/27/2009 10:16:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Frantzie; All

I could see where Obama might not have his long form BC, even the State of Hawaii “losing” their copy - but doesn’t the hospital keep a copy of the long form too???

So, if they are saying the long form BC doesn’t exist - were the copies ALL destroyed from these three sources???


25 posted on 09/27/2009 10:18:12 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Frantzie
No long form? Well, how can this be? /s
Let them claim there is no long form.
 
1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  That means there is a long form.
 
2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
 
3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 
 
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

  • His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
  •  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
  • The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
  • The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
  • More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

  • His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
  • The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
  • Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 
 
 

26 posted on 09/27/2009 10:39:26 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Did you know that there are no kindergarten records for Barry O.? Yet all the records for each of his classmates are there.

/s


27 posted on 09/27/2009 10:47:26 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Red Steel

See my post later in this thread and you will see why that is a crock of poop.

Additionally, the very records we want, are also in the State Department records.


28 posted on 09/27/2009 10:48:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

29 posted on 09/27/2009 10:49:51 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: wintertime

The thing Rush DID do was make his joke about how God and Obama are alike ..neither has a birth certificate. After that, the issue did get coverage that it hadn’t before. Rush doesn’t have to say a whole lot.


30 posted on 09/27/2009 10:55:57 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: LucyT

because they are paid pinch hitters.

They rest of us play this game for real.


31 posted on 09/27/2009 10:57:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Lmo56

Those same records are in the State Department, in his college file, Kindergarten records(if they can be found) etc.

They are around.


32 posted on 09/27/2009 10:59:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: jws3sticks

And?


33 posted on 09/27/2009 11:00:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
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34 posted on 09/27/2009 11:05:17 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Vendome

The first scanned image lacked the raised seal, so the next image posted by the obama website added a raised seal effect to the first scan they proffered. That is provable due to soemthing on the first scan which was found on the second scan witht he raised seal effected added. The particular artifact is not found on the third exhibit factcheck exhibited as a hard copy photgraphed by their hand-held camera.


35 posted on 09/27/2009 11:14:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: LucyT
I've been wondering where they are, too. Even the ones who announced they aren't trolls have disappeared.

They have shut down a few ACORN offices. Many are hiding underground just waiting for the next election.

36 posted on 09/27/2009 11:16:39 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Frantzie
Experts have repeated time and again that the documents presented to the country and campaign officials are real and legitimate documents and that a “long-form certificate” does not exist.

THIS IS CLASS-A BULLS**T !!!

Even if the paper records were destroyed, by Hawaii law they must have a complete electronic copy archived and made available to the public.

Here is the law, form the Hawaii Revised Statutes:

92-31 Disposition of original record. A photograph, microphotograph, reproduction on film, or electronic form of a government record shall be placed in conveniently accessible files and provisions made for preserving, examining, and using the same. Thereafter, a public officer, after having first received the written approval of the comptroller as provided in section 94-3, may cause such record, paper, or document to be destroyed. The comptroller may require, as a prerequisite to the granting of such approval, that a reproduction or print of such photograph, microphotograph, or reproduction on film, or electronic form of the record be delivered into the custody of the public archives for safekeeping. The comptroller may also require the delivery into the custody of another governmental department or agency or a research library of any such record, paper, or document proposed to be destroyed under the provisions of this section.

So, either the original microfiche copy is still available or a complete reproduction of it in electronic form is available. To put something in electronic form and not copy all the data on the original document would be against the law. Where these files have to be accessible and provisions have to be made for examining them, it would be misleading for the Department of Health to say that the information on the original Certificate of Live Birth is no longer available. Under Hawaii Revised Stautes 338-18, those with a direct and tangible interest in the record are permitted inspection of public health statistics records. That would include either the microfiche or electronic copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth.

37 posted on 09/27/2009 11:16:45 PM PDT by TheCipher
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To: jws3sticks

That is as good if not better than anything Barry has displayed for his sycophantic media whelps to tout as ‘genuine’ proof.


38 posted on 09/27/2009 11:16:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

thanks.

Let’s keep reminding everyone of the mounting evidence in direct contravention to their statements.

You cannot overcome the inconsistencies, after a while.


39 posted on 09/27/2009 11:22:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Spunky

Someone in the Hawaii records office needs to come out and say - without ambiguity - whether or not they hold a long-form BC for 0bama in any form. Could be paper, could be on microfilm/microfiche, whatever.

If they don’t have it I’ll never believe he was born on U.S. soil.

Until someone produces it, he’s not my president!

What kind of doucheclot would ever be involved with a cypher like 0bama? His family, his friends, his cabinet members, his whole administration... they’re all just as culpable as he is for propagating this hoax on our country.

“F” ‘em all!


40 posted on 09/27/2009 11:22:19 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( I am a proud citizen of GlennBeckistan. ))))
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