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Real hope: U.S. accelerates monster bunker busting bombs project
Debka.com ^ | September 28, 2009

Posted on 09/29/2009 5:03:25 PM PDT by honestabe010

The Pentagon has brought forward to December 2009 the target-date for producing the first 15-ton super bunker-buster bomb (GBU-57A/B) Massive Ordinance Penetrator, which can reach a depth of 60.09 meters underground before exploding. DEBKAfile's military sources report that top defense agencies and air force units were also working against the clock to adapt the bay of a B2a Stealth bomber for carrying and delivering the bomb.

The Pentagon has ordered the number of bombs rolling off the production line increased from four to ten - a rush job triggered in May by the discovery that Iran was hiding a second uranium enrichment plant under a mountain near Qom - a discovery which prompted this week's international outcry.

Congress has since quietly inserted the necessary funding in the 2009 budget.

All this urgency indicates that the Obama administration has been preparing military muscle to back up the international condemnation of Iran's concealed nuclear bomb program, its sanctions threat and his willingness to join the negotiations with Iran opening on Oct. 1 in Geneva. Tehran may have to take into account a possible one-time surgical strike against its underground enrichment facility as a warning shot should its defiance continue. In particular, the world powers this week demanded that Iran open up all its nuclear facilities and programs to full and immediate international inspection. Failure to do so could bring forth further US military action.

According to our military sources, the earliest date for the accelerated Pentagon program to produce a super bunker buster bomb mounted on a stealth bomber is December 2009 or January 2010. This too is three years ahead of its original schedule.

(Excerpt) Read more at debka.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; bombs; bunkerbusters; iran; miltech; nuclear; usmilitary
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1 posted on 09/29/2009 5:03:26 PM PDT by honestabe010
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To: honestabe010

Shhh! Don’t tell Obama.


2 posted on 09/29/2009 5:04:13 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: honestabe010

We need them now. Not December.


3 posted on 09/29/2009 5:05:43 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: honestabe010
which can reach a depth of 60.09 meters underground

Not a millimeter more!

4 posted on 09/29/2009 5:06:23 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: honestabe010

This with the news that the Saudis had green-lighted the Israelis to use their airspace...

just messin’ with Sasquatch.


5 posted on 09/29/2009 5:06:38 PM PDT by marron
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To: honestabe010
the Obama administration has been preparing military muscle

*chuckle* *snort*

6 posted on 09/29/2009 5:06:51 PM PDT by steveo (Two Thousand Ten - Never Again)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Don’t tell the fuhrer!
They had to keep the STG-44 a secret from him so he would not cancel it.


7 posted on 09/29/2009 5:07:02 PM PDT by omega4179 (We must be the change.)
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To: honestabe010
Hopefully they can be fitted with nuclear warheads.
8 posted on 09/29/2009 5:07:37 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Evil Slayer

It’s a Christmas present.


9 posted on 09/29/2009 5:07:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: sam_paine

Must be a precision bomb also. ;-)


10 posted on 09/29/2009 5:08:30 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: honestabe010

I’d prefer nuke bunker busters.


11 posted on 09/29/2009 5:08:36 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Candor7

This thing IS a (non nuclear, but very powerful) warhead.


12 posted on 09/29/2009 5:08:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: samtheman

Non-nuclear does have the virtue of not leaving the area radioactively hot. So ground forces can come right in without waiting.


13 posted on 09/29/2009 5:09:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: sam_paine
Not a millimeter more!

Get some better engineering and maybe they can get it down to 60.0918575 meters.

14 posted on 09/29/2009 5:09:50 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper; SLB

Hmmm.... Should make for an interesting project.


15 posted on 09/29/2009 5:10:06 PM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: sam_paine

It is a bit overly precise, and doesn’t convert to a round number in English units, either. (197.0952’)


16 posted on 09/29/2009 5:10:15 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't tell 0bama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: honestabe010
bombs rolling off the production line increased from four to ten

About 500 of these scattered around should work quite nicely.

17 posted on 09/29/2009 5:10:19 PM PDT by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this...)
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To: honestabe010

Shipping to Israel?


18 posted on 09/29/2009 5:10:36 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: honestabe010

I want to see it go BOOM!


19 posted on 09/29/2009 5:10:38 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Right Wing Assault

Do it twice and you have 120.18 meters.


20 posted on 09/29/2009 5:10:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: honestabe010

We do have microwave, laser, sound and nuc technology we can use not needing any of this.

The American people have been burdened with massive taxes to develop the most advanced technology in the world our DNC gives to others but we need to use.


21 posted on 09/29/2009 5:10:54 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

But, with nuclear warheads, ground troops don’t need to go in? ;-)


22 posted on 09/29/2009 5:11:41 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: honestabe010
Tehran may have to take into account a possible one-time surgical strike against its underground enrichment facility as a warning shot should its defiance continue.

It should be a one-time, surgical strike back to the stone age for ALL their nuke and missile sights. Not a warning shot, an all-hell-breaks-loose and nothing is left but some smoldering ruins. Surgical in the sense of precision and speed. They have had YEARS to shape up. The part about the Saudi's giving the Israelis the go-ahead makes perfect sense to me. I am sure they don't want that craziness right on their flank, anymore than the Israelis do.

23 posted on 09/29/2009 5:11:55 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: honestabe010

Now THAT”S Hope and Change I can believe in.....to our enemies I say “YES, WE CAN!!!”. HA.


24 posted on 09/29/2009 5:12:21 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: honestabe010

I sure wish the ‘RATS hadn’t killed the nuclear bunker buster idea.


25 posted on 09/29/2009 5:12:30 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (I wonder why Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) likes Muammar Gadaffi so much?)
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To: honestabe010

26 posted on 09/29/2009 5:12:38 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: doc1019

Not knowing how deep the bunker goes, it may be desirable to invade it.


27 posted on 09/29/2009 5:13:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thanks, good point.


28 posted on 09/29/2009 5:14:03 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Paleo Conservative

I don’t think it is really dead, it has just gone “black”!


29 posted on 09/29/2009 5:14:35 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: WellyP

I agree. Part of DARPA


30 posted on 09/29/2009 5:15:48 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: honestabe010

Hasn’t Barry stopped this yet?


31 posted on 09/29/2009 5:16:59 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The bunker busters can collapse the entry tunnels and shafts if the facility is too deep to reach directly, thus burying those involved alive....or not.


32 posted on 09/29/2009 5:20:40 PM PDT by Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
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To: DemforBush

That’s beautiful. I love the way anything looks that kills our enemies.


33 posted on 09/29/2009 5:21:46 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: honestabe010

I don’t like to rain on peoples’ parades, but debka has never been known as a reliable source.

Now, lets say it’s true. Obama is preparing to use ten of these babies on iranian nuke sites.

It’s gonna take a whole lot more than that. First the radar must be taken out. then the air force. Then the ground based air defenses. You would probably be looking at a solid week(or more) of bombing runs and cruise missiles BEFORE the B52s could get into range to drop a bunker buster.

That’s my best uneducated guess anyway.


34 posted on 09/29/2009 5:22:13 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: honestabe010

Why build what the weakling president and Congress don’t have the will to use?

- JP


35 posted on 09/29/2009 5:22:40 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("Government cannot make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise." - Sarah Heath Palin)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

An undergroud nuclear explosion would be ideal. They would not be able to rebuild on site for 100 years.

These are already being tested. I hope they get them on lne ASAP.


36 posted on 09/29/2009 5:22:59 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weap<p>ons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: mamelukesabre
You would probably be looking at a solid week(or more) of bombing runs and cruise missiles BEFORE the B52s could get into range to drop a bunker buster.

Report says it can be carried on a B-52 or B-2. Use the B-2 and you don't need radar suppression. Better yet don't be a jerk like "W" and give them weeks of warning so they can move the equipment. Just hit and run, then deny you hit the joint in the first place. Deny everything, say it was internal sabotage. Nobody will believe it, but who cares.
37 posted on 09/29/2009 5:30:58 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: honestabe010
Former refugee Duong Nguyet Anh is now America’s high-tech warrior, international explosives expert and brain behind the thermobaric bunker-buster bombs, see my reply #14 in link below . . . .

Massive ordnance penetrator (MOP) v. thermobaric interesting tech discussion here among the replies

38 posted on 09/29/2009 5:39:05 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: samtheman

Me too but they don’t want to get into the whole nuke issue. That’s why they are making is so massive.


39 posted on 09/29/2009 5:41:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: JohnLongIsland
Shhh! Don’t tell Obama.

You beat me to it.

40 posted on 09/29/2009 5:44:26 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: sam_paine
Missed it by that much =
41 posted on 09/29/2009 5:45:37 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

I hope that we are better a secrets than this. I hope that these stories are bs and that we already have the buster in service.
A really dirty nuc delivered on site would be one way to neutralize the plant.


42 posted on 09/29/2009 5:50:36 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: GonzoGOP

Like the way you think!

Remember when the israelies took out the syrian nuke sites? The syrans were so ashamed they claimed they did it themselves by accident...at first.


43 posted on 09/29/2009 5:53:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Evil Slayer

We has something better! The B53 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B53_nuclear_bomb

They are getting old, so time to “use them or loose them”.


44 posted on 09/29/2009 5:55:11 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Candor7

Won’t the fallout from the material we’re destroying render the place too hot to re-occupy?


45 posted on 09/29/2009 5:59:20 PM PDT by I-ambush (I didn't think, I never dreamed, that I would be around to see it all come true-McCartney and Wings)
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To: I-ambush

Maybe, but doubtful.


46 posted on 09/29/2009 6:03:50 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weap<p>ons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: honestabe010

Do a double decker - First one at T-1; Second one 30 minutes later with same GPS co-ordinates.


47 posted on 09/29/2009 6:13:55 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: honestabe010

Seems kinda late for this.


48 posted on 09/29/2009 6:14:09 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: marron

Maybe the Saudis will do it themselves. Wouldn’t that be interesting?


49 posted on 09/29/2009 6:15:06 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: honestabe010
and the reason we don't use a bomb encased in a tungsten ballistic missile is???
50 posted on 09/29/2009 6:22:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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