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Losing Faith in the Commander in Chief
Commentary Magazine ^ | 10.02.2009 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 10/02/2009 4:45:17 PM PDT by kingattax

The latest Fox News/Opinion Dymanic poll is chock-full of bad news for the president. But on foreign policy, the results are nothing short of stunning.

On who they trust more to decide the next steps in Afghanistan. 66 percent say military commanders, while only 20 percent say the president. Even Democrats have more faith in the military commanders (by a 45 to 37 percent margin).

On Iran, 69 percent say Obama has not been tough enough, including 55 percent of Democrats. Sixty-one percent favor a U.S. military action, if needed, to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Fifty-one percent think Obama apologizes for American too much.

Less than a year into his presidency, this is a remarkable and widespread loss of confidence in the president’s handling of national security.

This should actually come as no surprise. Neither his rhetoric or his decision-making to date has projected strength. He spent months arguing that we should close Guantanamo and dump the terrorists into the U.S. or into other countries. The voters disagreed.

He dithers on Afghanistan, and the voters no longer see him as the best person to set our course.

He sends video valentines to the mullahs, delighting in the notion that we can talk them out of their nukes, and waits for Russia and China to climb onto the Obama bandwagon (or Israel to do the dirty work for us). And Americans overwhelmingly see his performance as weak.

In short, Obama has already achieved what it took Jimmy Carter an entire term to attain: the conviction of a large majority of the American people that he is not protecting our interests or performing adequately as commander in chief.

He can either stiffen his resolve to confront America’s foes or continue his decline.

World events are unlikely to help him–they will only highlight his shoddy performance as our adversaries, seeing exactly what Americans do, begin to test and challenge the U.S. at every turn.

Joe Biden had a single correct insight during the campaign about foreign policy: Obama’s mettle would be tested, and “it’s not going to be apparent that’s we’re right.” For once Biden has proved to be the master of understatement.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; bho44; nationalsecurityfail; third100days; unfit

1 posted on 10/02/2009 4:45:17 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

I wonder what Hillary thinks about this. ;)


2 posted on 10/02/2009 4:47:36 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: kingattax

The Goal of Leftism is the Destruction of Western Civilization.

0bummer is right on course.


3 posted on 10/02/2009 4:48:20 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer isn't black, he's YELLOW.)
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To: kingattax

How can one loose faith in POTUS when one never had any to begin with?


4 posted on 10/02/2009 4:50:41 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: kingattax
... this is a remarkable and widespread loss of confidence ...

It is not remarkable to anyone who has been paying attention. It is predictable.

5 posted on 10/02/2009 4:51:52 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: kingattax

It’s all unfolding as badly as we feared.

Unfortunately we’re stuck with Baraq until Jan 2013 and he still has a decent shot at reelection IMHO.


6 posted on 10/02/2009 4:53:15 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: kingattax

More than half the RATS think Bummer has been a wimp on Iran. This is rich!


7 posted on 10/02/2009 4:55:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: nascarnation

His rear end is grass and whoever runs under the GOP banner for president (even if it was, ecch, Mitt Romney) is a lawn mower.


8 posted on 10/02/2009 4:56:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: kingattax

Losing faith? Hell, he never had it. How’s that hopium working?


9 posted on 10/02/2009 4:57:19 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Live Free Or Die)
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To: taraytarah
I wonder what Hillary thinks about this.

"I told you so".

10 posted on 10/02/2009 4:57:45 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ImpBill

Rats did


11 posted on 10/02/2009 4:57:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: kingattax

What must you lose that you never had?


12 posted on 10/02/2009 4:58:59 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: SE Mom

Ask her Czar.


13 posted on 10/02/2009 4:59:25 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Live Free Or Die)
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To: kingattax

This is what happens when people vote entirely based on race and celebrity status. Suckers.


14 posted on 10/02/2009 5:00:51 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I hope you’re right but I’m not convinced.
Baraq will still get 97% votes from minorities, illegals, dead people, union members, and idiot liberals.
That’s a big base to build on, and it doesn’t take that many more to win.


15 posted on 10/02/2009 5:01:50 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

He will have to have purchased a whole fleet of buses by that point for all the friends he has thrown under them.


16 posted on 10/02/2009 5:04:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: nascarnation

It seems you are always worried about Barry. We know the odds, have a little fun.


17 posted on 10/02/2009 5:04:57 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: kingattax
It is very dangerous to have a complete incompetent as a leader. O makes three in a role. Three strikes and you're out? I sure hope not. Come 2010, if there still is a republic, we'd better start electing American adults.
18 posted on 10/02/2009 5:05:30 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: nascarnation

97% minorities is still only 30-35% of the population. Those who voted because of the ‘historic’ moment are idiots and should have had to pass a civics test to vote, at least name the 3 branches of government. Many are realizing their mistake. I was skeptical about the direction of the country, but after 9-12, the tea parties and townhalls, and seeing the crowds, we are the majority. Americans won’t take to commie, socialism, fascism, or what ever ism is promoted. Look at Sarah Palin’s book, she’s over 7 million and the darn thing is just a jacket, not published yet. Take that Libs.


19 posted on 10/02/2009 5:09:55 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Live Free Or Die)
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To: kingattax
My confidence in Obama has not diminished a bit.

I had every confidence during the campaign that Obama fully intended to destroy the USA, its economy, its culture, its people, and its standing among nations.

In less than a year into this fiasco, he has proven to be and do everything he possibly can to reinforce that opinion.

20 posted on 10/02/2009 5:11:32 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: jpsb
It is very dangerous to have a complete incompetent as a leader. O makes three in a role.

Whatever you might say about GWB, he was not "a complete incompetent" as C-I-C.

He listened to and supported his commanders in the field. He won a friggin' major engagement and liberated 25 million people, fer cryin' out loud.

Did he make mistakes? Of course. Because his advisors -- whom he trusted -- made mistakes. No President -- nor their advisors -- has ever been prescient in time of war.

But, in the end, the idea is to WIN. And, in Iraq, Bush seems to have done exactly that (if Obama and the Democrat Congress don't screw it up).

I'll give you the other two, though...

21 posted on 10/02/2009 5:18:12 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: kingattax

Not me. Never had any in him to begin with.


22 posted on 10/02/2009 5:20:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: taraytarah
Hillary is sitting there thinking, "Holy sh*t, Bill couldn't cut the mustard, but this idiot makes him look like Winston Churchill."
23 posted on 10/02/2009 5:33:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: nascarnation
obama will not and did not get “97% of union member votes”.

Most union members I know voted against obama. obama did get 97% of the union goon boss vote.

24 posted on 10/02/2009 5:34:51 PM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: okie01
"Whatever you might say about GWB, he was not "a complete incompetent" as C-I-C"

Well he FINALLY listened to those of us, beging and pleading for more troops in Iraq. Took him a long time to realize we were right and he FINALLY committed the troops needed to win there. So I'll give him a B on CIC. C for Iraq and A missile defence. The other two get an F as CIC.

25 posted on 10/02/2009 5:34:59 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: nascarnation
Unfortunately we’re stuck with Baraq until Jan 2013 and he still has a decent shot at reelection IMHO.

You state that like it's fact, and not the hypothesis that it is.

There are strong indications that BHO may not even complete his term, due to the gathering storm of legal challenges to his eligibility.

Add to that, the fact that he will lose the compliant and complicit Democrat majority in Congress next year - which will make him a de facto lame duck, just halfway into his term.

Then there are his ever sliding poll numbers. They're going down, because Americans who voted for him are seeing just what an inept, and wholly inadequate executive he is. Obama has done little to instill confidence in the American people, and much to make them fearful of him being in charge.

Our economy has sunk to near historic lows on his and the Democrats' watch. He's done nothing during his term so far, to address the systemic and root causes of our economic troubles. In fact, everything that he and his Democrat congress have done, has made things worse.

So, tell me why it is you think this man stands even a slim chance of being re-elected?

Perhaps he has a stronger version of Kool-Aid stashed somewhere? I doubt it.

26 posted on 10/02/2009 5:38:13 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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.......if one never had any faith in obama, then there can’t be any faith lost. Great to see others waking-up though.


27 posted on 10/02/2009 5:39:12 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Tail Gunner John

You may be right.

The only union members I’m personallyfamiliar with are the UAW (I’m a GM retiree)
They sure didn’t vote for any Republicans after Reagan.

The Teamsters maybe not so much?

You know SEIU, UFCW, AFSCME and NEA are totally Obama.


28 posted on 10/02/2009 5:47:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
Baraq will still get 97% votes from minorities, illegals, dead people, union members, and idiot liberals.

What???

All those groups put together don't amount to more than 20% of the population. He'll have to get a sizable majority of the mushy middle (40%) to win again - and that isn't going to happen, because they're already moving into the Strongly Disapprove column in droves.

No, Bozo shot his wad in his last campaign. He was supposed to walk on water, stop the seas from rising, lift every soul out of poverty, command the sun moon and stars into alignment, yada, yada, yada...

Naturally he couldn't do it, and has proven that he can't even do a mediocre job of leading the country.

I'm sorry, but Obama has been heading straight to the basement since inauguration day, and is unlikely to change course. He's going to wind up having the lowest approval numbers of any president on record before his term is up.

He had his chance to do something great, but he's made of the wrong stuff. Trust me, he won't get another shot.

29 posted on 10/02/2009 5:47:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
So, tell me why it is you think this man stands even a slim chance of being re-elected?

America is becoming a deeply divided country.

Baraq will still have devoted 90%+ support from the groups he is pandering to (minorities, illegals, dead voters, union members, non taxpayers, welfare recipients, etc) plus the whole hearted support of SCM.

The Baraqqis are bogged down like German tanks in Russia at 40 below zero, but the toughest fighting lies ahead.

30 posted on 10/02/2009 5:53:40 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
Baraq will still have devoted 90%+ support from the groups he is pandering to (minorities, illegals, dead voters, union members, non taxpayers, welfare recipients, etc) plus the whole hearted support of SCM.

Again - all of those groups amount to no more than 20% of the American electorate.

Where's he going to get the rest of the votes that he needs to win a presidential election?

31 posted on 10/02/2009 6:08:05 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

We disagree on the numbers.
We agree to disagree.
I very much hope your numbers are correct.


32 posted on 10/02/2009 6:10:16 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: kingattax
He may not even be Commander in Chief!

His father was a British and Kenyan citizen. Obama has never released the most basic documents that would clarify his natural born status.

33 posted on 10/02/2009 6:13:35 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: nascarnation
We disagree on the numbers.

No need to agree with me. Those aren't my numbers. They've come from polls of likely voters done this year, and over the last few decades.

Perhaps you don't remember the recent news about the polls that were conducted which revealed that over 40% of Americans consider themselves to be conservative, while just 20% consider themselves to be liberal. The balance of about 39% consider themselves to be moderate. These poll results were discussed here, and on talk radio for at least a week.

This really isn't "news", per se. Previous polls (going back decades), asking the same question, have revealed a similar split. The left has never had a majority in this country. The only way that they've ever won elections, is to convince a sufficient number of squishy moderates to vote their way.

America is a center-right country, as borne out by these polls. Always has been.

34 posted on 10/02/2009 6:20:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Hillary is sitting there thinking, "Holy sh*t, Bill couldn't cut the mustard, but this idiot makes him look like Winston Churchill."

Surely by now, she's thinking, "I lost to...him?"

35 posted on 10/02/2009 6:26:17 PM PDT by Lou L
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To: jpsb
Took him a long time to realize we were right and he FINALLY committed the troops needed to win there.

Just like it took every wartime President since the dawn of the Republic a "long time" to realize that somebody -- besides his initial commanders and advisors -- was "right".

No war has ever been won without mistakes...in hindsight. No President has ever been right, all the time.

I'm not going to criticize FDR for Kasserine Pass, Harry Truman for Chosin Reservoir, nor GWB for Fallujah.

If your judgment in such matters is perfect, well, then, congratulations.

The important thing, though, is that, in the end, Bush won.

36 posted on 10/02/2009 6:36:07 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: nascarnation

So you think Bark O has a better chance of re-election than Jimmy Cartridge ?...I wouldn’t bet the family car on it...


37 posted on 10/02/2009 7:02:42 PM PDT by billmor (As another Freeper said- the lines are drawn, choose your side !)
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To: Tail Gunner John

Thank you T.G.John...Just reading that brings a smile to this old face...


38 posted on 10/02/2009 7:06:35 PM PDT by billmor (As another Freeper said- the lines are drawn, choose your side !)
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To: kingattax; meadsjn
From the article: "He can either stiffen his resolve to confront Americak's foes or continue his decline."

From meadsjn: "My confidence in Obama has not diminished a bit. I had every confidence during the campaign that Obama fully intended to destroy the USA, its economy, its culture, its people, and its standing among nations."

meadsjn - I find it astonishing that any person with 2 brain synapses to rub together is still discussing or considering the notion that inexperience or incompetence is driving outcomes from BHO...???!!!

39 posted on 10/02/2009 8:27:13 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: uncommonsense
A holocaust survivor wrote something about the Jews shuffling mindlessly to their fate, and how the human mind blocks out the true reality when the reality is too incomprensible or inhumane.

I heard a woman voice that inability today when I explained that never had we had a president who tried to nationalize the banking, auto, insurance, and medical industries, and others to come, but it is happening: "I simply cannot believe that someone would do that on purpose."

It most certainly isn't happening by accident. "Oops, I slipped, and dragged the whole USA into the communist pit of doom."

40 posted on 10/02/2009 10:36:36 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Windflier

The stronger kool-aid is in the form of $800 billion in porkulus cash that will hit the economy next year and be reported as the greatest economic boom since the Roaring 20s - or the glorious Clinton Era.


41 posted on 10/02/2009 10:36:59 PM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: karnage
The stronger kool-aid is in the form of $800 billion in porkulus cash that will hit the economy next year and be reported as the greatest economic boom since the Roaring 20s - or the glorious Clinton Era.

We shall see. Their Cash for Clunkers program didn't do squat for the automobile industry except to artificially boost their stats for about a month.

After the congress falls to the Republicans next year, we can expect to see a whole lot of monkey wrenches thrown into the Porkulus machine.

42 posted on 10/02/2009 10:40:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Music to my ears plus minorities tend to make an emotional vote....Thus their turnout for 0bongo was very high. Hope n change...first black president etc etc

I saw it first hand where I live because we had 10 days of pre-voting. The town library had them lined up every day making sure they got their vote in. I had the feeling that many had never voted, hadn’t voted for years and wanted to be sure to get any voter regisration problems fixed before actual election day

Obama had them very excited. You’ll never see such high turnout again by blacks for another black candidate

Hispanic turnout has always been anemic but they turned out for 0bama too obviously


43 posted on 10/02/2009 10:57:34 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: dennisw
...minorities tend to make an emotional vote....Thus their turnout for 0bongo was very high. Hope n change...first black president etc etc

Tell me about it. Of my (immediate and extended) family, I am the only conservative, and took unrelenting flak from them for supporting the "evil Republicans" during the election.

Relations between us haven't thawed since then, even though I've extended olive branches all around. I'm still a "traitor" in their eyes.

They were all deranged by degrees throughout the Bush years. When Zero showed up, and became their nominee, they were right over the moon. As in bats. Didn't matter how much damning info I sent them about Bozo, they "believed", and could not be dissuaded by anything I said.

It was truly something to behold. My whole family, drunk as a skunk on Hopenchange™ Kool-Aid.

44 posted on 10/02/2009 11:35:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: kingattax
while only 20 percent say the president.

1/5th of this country is, literally, too stupid to live.

We need to unplug the life support system that bleeds us dry to keep these protein piles alive and breeding.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

45 posted on 10/02/2009 11:49:21 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Windflier

My family situation is better but I have dropped a few friends who somehow are not so interesting to me any more with their Obama voting and trust in huge governments, Federal and state

One thing about your family——
They might be very good in other respects
You have to realize that though you and I give great thought to society and politics for most Americans it is an afterthought. They have other things of interest or are overburdened with work. They might be lazy as far as proper citizenship.... But might have a lot going on for them otherwise


46 posted on 10/03/2009 12:22:10 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: Windflier

I must add that plenty of whites make uninformed emotional votes. With women being the most guilty. And unmarried women being the most wacked out leftist.....married women used to vote same as their husbands. But are still conservative compared to the unmarried


47 posted on 10/03/2009 12:25:58 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: Windflier

“After the congress falls to the Republicans next year, we can expect to see a whole lot of monkey wrenches thrown into the Porkulus machine.”

I hope your crystal ball is in working order!!


48 posted on 10/03/2009 1:04:39 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: kingattax

bttt


49 posted on 10/03/2009 6:45:55 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: billmor
So you think Bark O has a better chance of re-election than Jimmy Cartridge ?...I wouldn’t bet the family car on it...

I'm concerned about how many immigrants (legal and illegal) we've had since the 80s. They're almost all Baraqqis. Also things like motor voter have upped vote fraud immensely (IMHO) and that's 99% liberal votes.

Union members went for Reagan pretty strongly, but these days they're voting much more as a block for liberals. Some unions used to be anti-communist but socially liberal. Now the anti-communist thing is completely gone.

Also there are many more government employees now than back then. They won't bite the hand that feeds them.

I just think the task will be challenging and we need to be on the top of our game in 2010 and 2012.

50 posted on 10/03/2009 11:05:20 AM PDT by nascarnation
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