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Taking the Republican Party
Vanity ^ | 10/04/2009 | Doug Loss

Posted on 10/04/2009 4:01:24 PM PDT by Doug Loss

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To: Doug Loss

Break open the arms lockers and let’s have a mutiny. The ship can be repurposed and directed to directly engage the real enemy.


21 posted on 10/04/2009 4:26:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: rabscuttle385

You should get the pulitzer prize for that cover!!!!


23 posted on 10/04/2009 4:27:43 PM PDT by GregB (Attention Sarah Palin supporters!!it cost 1 dollar to read this.Please send your money to Sarah!!!!)
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To: DakotaRed; sickoflibs; Impy; Man50D; AuntB; DoughtyOne; TigersEye; TADSLOS; cripplecreek; ...
And abandon a strong defense of America and wait until they are running through our streets.

Wait until **who** is "running through our streets"?

Wait, who was it exactly who was all for open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens???

The Republican Party.

Wait, I forgot. Your idea of "defense" is conducting nation-building and spreading "democracy" to foreign Powers that pose "perceived" threats to the American Empire...

...just like Wilson and FDR.

24 posted on 10/04/2009 4:27:55 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: DakotaRed

There’s nothing wrong with an audit of the FED.


25 posted on 10/04/2009 4:28:16 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

My point. If you want a viable conservative party, and quickly, you can only get it by taking over an existing structure. Building a new one from the ground up would take too long, and would guarantee leftist control for as long as it took to get it to major party status. By then the USA would be done for. Instead, the grassroots need to seize the reins of the GOP, and this is the way to do so. Just because someone with libertarian creds proposed it doesn’t make it automatically a bad idea.


26 posted on 10/04/2009 4:29:51 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

I think it would be useful to have a parallel agenda to take over the Democrat party also. With the current Democrat leadership becoming Marxist radicals and the GOP leadership becoming Democrat Lite we need to retake a lot of ideological ground. The whole stage for discussion has drifted way to the left.

For example, JFK’s pitch for a capital gains tax cut seemed more conservative than McCains middle of the road moderation.


27 posted on 10/04/2009 4:32:18 PM PDT by UnChained (DNC slogan: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and that's good enough")
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To: Doug Loss
I'm not going to bother about how to form a third party, as I think it would be at best a waste of time.

Of course it is. The new party would be full of the same people. A new party doesn't give you a brand new set voters. You're stuck with the same voting public the two parties we have now pull from. Real change is going to have to come from a change of heart in the voting public. Nothing short of that is going to change anything.

28 posted on 10/04/2009 4:32:39 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Doug Loss

Perot teaches that it is the only way.


29 posted on 10/04/2009 4:32:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: UnChained

True, taking over the Democrat Party would be another goal to shoot for. But how many people of a traditional American mindset are left in the Democrat Party? Could enough of them get elected as precinct officials to make a difference? It’s worth the effort, just to weaken the Dems ideologically, but I doubt there’s much chance of changing the party back to one that actually wants to abide by the Constitution.


30 posted on 10/04/2009 4:35:35 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

I’m interested in stopping Paulistas from burying the party and getting more people like Duncan Hunter into it.

There is a reason Paul never advanced beyond the low polling he did, in spite of getting more press coverage than strong conservatives like Hunter.

Embracing Paulistas like Condit and many others won’t save the party.

The embedded themselves deep into the party last year without revealing their strong support for Paul.

They did not support McCain but continued in support of Paul and threw their votes away. I didn’t like McCain either, but saw it was him or Obama and you see who we got.

Paulista’s have been very bold in mentioning their intent to infiltrate the GOP, use up the resources for their people and give nothing back or support GOP candidates.

So yes, I am encouraging others who see the Paulista’s for what they are to run against them in the next elections for PCO.

I also make every effort to expose them every chance I get.

Don’t forget, when it comes to working alomngside them, you lie down with dogs don’t be surprised to wake up with fleas.


31 posted on 10/04/2009 4:36:41 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: Melas

What I think (hope!) you’re missing is that a great portion of the voting public feels that neither party represents their values and principles. If we could take the Republican Party and make it into a robust conservative voice, I think you’d see a response from the public that would surprise you. At least I hope we’re not past the point of no return.


32 posted on 10/04/2009 4:37:53 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Paladin2
There’s nothing wrong with an audit of the FED.

Who said there was?

My opposition to Paul is his mamby mamby method of defense.

33 posted on 10/04/2009 4:38:43 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: Paladin2

How many terms did President Perot serve? Perot’s only success was to put Clinton in office, proving my point.


34 posted on 10/04/2009 4:39:12 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss
By then the USA would be done for.

The OP(formerly the GOP) has been in power since the mid 1850's. It's had more than enough time to prevent the country from being toast. Instead the OP has incrementally joined those seeking the country's destruction.

Instead, the grassroots need to seize the reins of the GOP, and this is the way to do so.

Why didn't the grassroots seize the reins long ago when there was far less socialism in the OP? Expecting it to happen now is ludicrous.
35 posted on 10/04/2009 4:40:01 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: DakotaRed
Read carefully: I said use the techniques presented, not agree with every position Condit might take. If you think they're deeply embedded in the GOP, use the same technique to root them out! But complaining about it won't get anything done.
36 posted on 10/04/2009 4:41:49 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

You’d wind up with the same people demanding the same things and you’d be back to square one before you knew what happened.


37 posted on 10/04/2009 4:42:16 PM PDT by Melas
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To: DakotaRed; Paladin2; Bokababe; bamahead; dcwusmc
My opposition to Paul is his mamby mamby method of defense.

Nation-building is not defense.

38 posted on 10/04/2009 4:43:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: Man50D

So what’s your solution, to sit back and complain loudly? That won’t help anything. If you’re not willing to try, you don’t have much room to grouse about the situation.


39 posted on 10/04/2009 4:43:47 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Melas

If you don’t think it would make any difference then there’s no reason for you to try to change anything. Just don’t complain about the situation if you’re not willing to even try to fix it.


40 posted on 10/04/2009 4:45:25 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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