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Barack Obama furious at General Stanley McChrystal speech on Afghanistan
Telegraph UK ^ | 05 Oct 2009 | Alex Spillius

Posted on 10/04/2009 4:07:18 PM PDT by opentalk

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To: opentalk
According to sources close to the administration, Gen McChrystal shocked and angered presidential advisers with the bluntness of a speech given in London last week.

The next day he was summoned to an awkward 25-minute face-to-face meeting on board Air Force One on the tarmac in Copenhagen, where the president had arrived to tout Chicago's unsuccessful Olympic bid.


I'm very much in favor of military people following the chain of command and not trying to force policies on civilian leadership, but apparently this is what it took for McChrystal to finally get some face time with Obama.
61 posted on 10/04/2009 4:33:18 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: opentalk
These Generals have to take orders from that Parasite?? That is insult enough let alone his chicken chit tantrum!
62 posted on 10/04/2009 4:33:33 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: opentalk

Who told him to be furious?


63 posted on 10/04/2009 4:33:45 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (ZerOcare: Bureaucratic best practices equals death panels.)
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To: opentalk

Our Generals, are standing on the banks of the Rubicon.


64 posted on 10/04/2009 4:34:47 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: opentalk
"shocked and angered
presidential advisers"SmileyCentral.com
65 posted on 10/04/2009 4:35:05 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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The president will replace McChrystal with General McClellan.


66 posted on 10/04/2009 4:35:11 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: behzinlea

this is not Truman and MacArthur, but it is parallel.

Obama probably told the General that he is to keep his opinions to himself henceforth.

and...no doubt...Obama probably told his staff to research the Army command and find out who to name as the next Afghanistan commander....and he should replace the general right now...he cannot give the Army command of US foreign policy.

now i am not even saying who is right about what to do in Afghanistan....but the General has (IMHO) crossed the line into the political arena...

Obama is not going to get this right. But he is CinC.

McCrystal should resign and go public with his objections.


67 posted on 10/04/2009 4:35:23 PM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: arthurus
Hussein votes “Present.”

He doesn't even do that anymore....hell, Air Force One is already due for a major maintenance overhaul.

68 posted on 10/04/2009 4:38:31 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Mmm mmm mmm - Barack Hussein Obama (repeat endlessly))
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To: opentalk
Obama is furious?!!!?!!!
69 posted on 10/04/2009 4:38:52 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: kralcmot
And there you have in in one paragraph.

Wear the uniform, follow the orders. Tell your boss he is wrong (I have) - then follow orders.

Don't think the boss will listen - go into the meeting with a letter of resignation in your pocket.

70 posted on 10/04/2009 4:39:54 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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This General is gonna get fired...it won’t happen for awhile but happen it will.....someday in the near future the General will *retire*...


71 posted on 10/04/2009 4:40:23 PM PDT by mystery-ak (gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: opentalk
Obama is the U.S. forces' LBJ and McNamara.

Obama will do nothing for the troops if it harms his domestic agenda.

"Robert McNamara and U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson's staff . . . were more concerned with political victories in the US, than military victories in South Vietnam." [A review of book, below]

Colonel H.R. McMaster, 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, wrote Dereliction of Duty: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, The Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies that Led to Vietnam.

The book took 5 years to research and was completed in 1997 as a part of McMaster's Ph.D. thesis at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

It's been ten years since I read it but I think an important point was the generals should have been forthright with the civilians and Maxwell Taylor, Kennedy's powerful military adviser then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs who remained with LBJ through 1964.

It seemed that not even LeMay stood up, if I remember correctly -- except when he and his cigar always positioned themselves next to Taylor who hated smoking.

Never again!

72 posted on 10/04/2009 4:40:41 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

“Methinks Zero’s lack of everything that counts is really showing.”

Not only that, it is being acknowledged around the globe. Not only have the American people started waking up, other world leaders, no doubt are too. The problem with this and Zero’s being a WEAK leader (HE IS NO LEADER ... HE’S SOMEONE’S PUPPET) they will take full advantage of this. You really have to wonder what the Russians are talking to Iran about and China with North Korea. I think we can agree that the media is not getting the truth about their discussions.


73 posted on 10/04/2009 4:40:57 PM PDT by fujimoh
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To: opentalk
Let's not forget is the Chosen One's general.

McChrystal is to succeed Army Gen. David McKiernan, whom Defense Secretary Robert Gates fired last month after less than a year in the post. McKiernan was ousted for four main reasons, a senior U.S. military official said. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to talk to reporters.

Gates and Army Gen. David Petraeus, the head of the U.S. Central Command, thought he was too slow to reach out to local security leaders in eastern Afghanistan. McKiernan also opposed adding a three-star general in Afghanistan to deal with day-to-day operations. There also were concerns that his request for 30,000 additional troops was shaped by how much strain the military could handle, not by the requirements on the ground. Finally, the senior military official said, the administration was concerned about mounting civilian causalities.

http://www.sacbee.com/418/story/1913729.html

74 posted on 10/04/2009 4:41:51 PM PDT by McGruff (Go rogue baby, go rogue!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Clark is Obama's checkmate to their resignation threat.

There is also the little trick Clinton came up with. "You can resign and go public, but your pension check might get lost for a long time. And you'll find that nobody wants you for any speaking gigs."

75 posted on 10/04/2009 4:42:02 PM PDT by 300winmag (Zero to abject failure in under a month. A new land speed record!)
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To: teletech
McCrystal has his men and women to think about, something zero does not understand, like honor, dedication, patriotism, allegiance, valor, sacrifice, responsibility and dedication. Not one of these words zero either understands or cares to. A failure as commander and chief I'm afraid. Resign and spill the beans on these traitors
76 posted on 10/04/2009 4:43:05 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (The tree of liberty..........)
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To: opentalk
Something tells me Obama thinks he knows better.


77 posted on 10/04/2009 4:43:15 PM PDT by topfile
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To: kralcmot
I think McChrystal should resign and leave to some other unfortunate slob the job of being Obama's lap poodle-of-the-day.

Obama is killing our best and bravest by dithering. The only card McChrystal has to play is to abruptly resign. Nothing would focus the harsh light of criticism on Obama's incompetence more acutely than for his hand-picked Afghanistan commander to abruptly quit on him.

78 posted on 10/04/2009 4:43:55 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: NonValueAdded
Enter Wesley Clark

Do not think he is on active duty therefore he isn't eligible.

79 posted on 10/04/2009 4:44:11 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: devane617

Nothing reported on tonight’s NBC Nightly News. No surprise there...


80 posted on 10/04/2009 4:44:30 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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