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1 posted on 10/10/2009 12:53:15 AM PDT by neverdem
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Health Care Reform is entirely a struggle between liberty and fascism.

HCR is not just about rationing and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of all individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist basic human right to health care spreads throughout the legal and political system like a virus.

Congressman Anthony Weiner says that health care is not a commodity. If health care is not a commodity then doctors and nurses are not free and sovereign citizens. If health care is a right then health care workers are slaves to that right who must serve it. No health care worker could refuse to provide their services, for any reason, because that would violate the patient's basic human right to health care.

That means that health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is provided by the government to all not protected by the government as something possessed by each person. It is also a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others when the two come into conflict.

It isn't stated in any of the bills that a patient's rights to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to health care.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it is superior to an individual right. Fascist because it is overseen by one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the true possessor of this collective right and the administrator and enforcer of it as well.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS

Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the state's control over its health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)

2 posted on 10/10/2009 1:08:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: neverdem

Who says there’s no Satan?


3 posted on 10/10/2009 1:44:13 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (w)
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To: neverdem

Good posts. We *have* “universal health care.” *Anyone* — rich, poor, citizen, illegal alien, or visitor — can go to any open emergency room for health care. The facility housing the ER can serve them, or go out of business. Some are going out of business. If ObamaCare becomes law, more facilities will close and more health care professionals will leave their industry. We will have “less universal” health care because of reduced resources. Simple and ugly.


6 posted on 10/10/2009 3:33:50 AM PDT by JohnQ1 (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: neverdem
People over 65 rarely borrow or pay taxes to the banking oligarchy.

And the banks hold the reins of power.

End the Fed.

10 posted on 10/10/2009 4:33:40 AM PDT by Vet_6780 ("I see debt people")
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placemark.


11 posted on 10/10/2009 4:52:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: neverdem; maica; Freee-dame

Outstanding essay.


12 posted on 10/10/2009 5:05:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: neverdem

ping


14 posted on 10/10/2009 1:47:50 PM PDT by Red Boots
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