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Germans seek to oust Czech president Vaclav Klaus over EU treaty (Not from the Onion!)
Times of London ^ | October 11, 2009 | Bojan Pancevski

Posted on 10/10/2009 11:02:16 PM PDT by GOPGuide

“If the president is obstructing the democratic process and opposing the decision of parliament as well as the will of the people, he is moving beyond the law and will need to face the consequences,” a German diplomat told The Sunday Times.

Jiri Oberfalzer, a member of the Czech senate and Klaus’s closest ally, said Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, had already threatened the Czechs with expulsion from the EU.

“Ideas of changing the constitution just to get rid of the president only shows how weak our young democracy is,” said Oberfalzer, a Eurosceptic.

The political hot potato now lands in the hands of the caretaker government of Jan Fischer, the prime minister.

Under the Czech constitution a president can be impeached only if he commits high treason against the country’s independence or its territorial integrity and democratic order. It is highly unlikely that parliament would pass such a measure under Fischer’s interim government.

There are other hurdles. The treaty has been approved by the Czech parliament but senators loyal to Klaus have lodged three challenges with the constitutional court, which has rejected two and is widely expected to follow suit with the third.

Opponents of the treaty hope that Klaus will be able to stall ratification until the British general election in May. David Cameron, the Tory leader, has promised a referendum if his party wins and the treaty is still unsigned.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: czech; czechrepublic; eu; vaclavklaus

1 posted on 10/10/2009 11:02:17 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

I remember this movie from somewhere.


2 posted on 10/10/2009 11:03:20 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Klaus is awesome. Shame on the Germans - fools.


3 posted on 10/10/2009 11:05:04 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: GOPGuide

A bridge too far?


4 posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:04 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: GOPGuide
I remember this movie from somewhere

Gee, you're right...wait...didn't a man named Chamberlain have a bit part?

Something like that

5 posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:16 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: GOPGuide

Hold until releaved comes to mind.


6 posted on 10/10/2009 11:11:15 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: GOPGuide

Next they will say the Polish are too irresponsible to govern themselves and need their help.


7 posted on 10/10/2009 11:11:26 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: GOPGuide

SINCE WHEN is taking over the sovereignty of a country by unelected elitist thuggery a democratic process?


8 posted on 10/10/2009 11:12:31 PM PDT by BigFinn (Obamanation, Obamacide, then Obamaggedon.)
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To: GOPGuide

I don’t see who the Germans are/is?

What kind of standard is this?


9 posted on 10/10/2009 11:13:52 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (AL GORE BETRAYED OUR PLANET - HE PLAYED ON OUR FEARS!!!)
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To: GOPGuide

Our democracy is over 200 years old, but we now ignore the constitution to allow an inelligible man to be president.

Democracy is always weak, and must always be fought for.


10 posted on 10/10/2009 11:14:17 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: GOPGuide

Klaus is also a “Climate Denier”, giving them even more reason to get rid of him.


11 posted on 10/10/2009 11:18:34 PM PDT by kik5150
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To: DannyTN

There is nothing democratic about the European Union treaty and if the Obamaites get their way there will be nothing democratic about our own system of government eithet. I am convinced that he was imposed on us by our elites, who wish to run our lives the way that European elites run the lives of their peoples, who seem more and more like a proletariat.


12 posted on 10/10/2009 11:26:47 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: RobbyS

“I am convinced that he was imposed on us by our elites, who wish to run our lives the way that European elites run the lives of their peoples, who seem more and more like a proletariat....”

... And the systematic destruction of Christianity and the traditional family by the same is for the purpose of nullifying a source of competitive allegiance.


13 posted on 10/10/2009 11:40:56 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: GOPGuide

Remember they were much more forgiving of Saddam. Of course, it reminded them of the time when outsiders interfered with their dictator.


14 posted on 10/10/2009 11:41:24 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (The number one threat to American Security: Barak Obama - Jimmy Carter Part II.)
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To: RobbyS

Read the article by Dick Morris why Hussein received the Nobel Peace Price. It does explain a lot. You can Google it, look for Dick Morris.


15 posted on 10/11/2009 12:09:53 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: BigFinn
BINGO!! Give that man a cigar.

That is exactly what the Lisbon Treaty does. The EU Constitution was voted down, so they strip out a national anthem, move a deck chair here and there, and out comes a treaty.

Now both will allow the EU to be run by unelected, unaccountable politicians. As I said on another thread, sort of like having the President, Senate and House elect themselves and you little people zip your lips and obey.

The difference is that a Constitution required quite a few votes of the people whereas a treaty only needs to be confirmed by the same people that will benefit from it.

No conflict of interest there! s/

16 posted on 10/11/2009 12:18:07 AM PDT by lowbuck (The Blue Card (American passport): Don't leave home without it!!)
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To: GOPGuide
Jiri Oberfalzer, a member of the Czech senate and Klaus’s closest ally, said Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, had already threatened the Czechs with expulsion from the EU.

That would be the best thing that could happen to the Czech Republic.

Under the Czech constitution a president can be impeached only if he commits high treason against the country’s independence or its territorial integrity and democratic order.

President Klaus is doing the exact opposite. It sounds like he is standing by his country's constitution and protecting its sovereignty. He's the best hope for stalling for time against this horrible abomination. Three cheers for President Klaus!

17 posted on 10/11/2009 12:18:18 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: GOPGuide
Your thinking of that book, “Anschluss, Czechoslovakia, and The Rest of Europe on 10 Marks a Day”, by A. Schicklegruber.
18 posted on 10/11/2009 2:07:13 AM PDT by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: GOPGuide

Is Klaus the guy who said man made global warming is a hoax?


19 posted on 10/11/2009 5:15:07 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: GOPGuide

Colonists!


20 posted on 10/11/2009 5:25:13 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: GOPGuide
I'm glad this article was datelined: Times of London October 11, 2009.

I thought I was getting a history lesson, with a dateline: Berlin 11 October 1939.

5.56mm

21 posted on 10/11/2009 5:36:36 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: GOPGuide

Time to settle the Sudeten question?


22 posted on 10/11/2009 5:55:15 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: GOPGuide
Europe,clearly,has exchanged the *Soviet* Union for the *European* Union.

But the joke's on them...the *Soviet* Union is BACK!

23 posted on 10/11/2009 5:59:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: GOPGuide
hmmmm... wasn't there another incident in the past between Germany and Czekosovakia? Something about Germany wanting one thing done and the Czechs want another. Seem to remember it was a precursor to series of events that weren't nice.
24 posted on 10/11/2009 7:09:07 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: PAR35

The Germans are just looking for a little Lebensraum, nothing wrong with that. They are confident that the new EU will bring peace in our time, and under Sharia Law to boot.


25 posted on 10/11/2009 7:37:13 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: GOPGuide

The Germans are going to piss off Obama. No country is supposed to dominate another country. That’s why we are trying destroy Honduras’ government also.


26 posted on 10/11/2009 8:11:03 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: LukeL

LOVE your tagline!!!


27 posted on 10/11/2009 9:27:57 AM PDT by CDB
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To: GOPGuide

The Germans have it in for the Czechs. Ever since they marched into the Sudetenland...


28 posted on 10/11/2009 1:44:50 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: RoadTest
Is Klaus the guy who said man made global warming is a hoax?

Yup. He ought to be a real Nobel Prize winner in my opinion.

29 posted on 10/11/2009 2:05:19 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: rfp1234

“Is Klaus the guy who said man made global warming is a hoax?
Yup. He ought to be a real Nobel Prize winner in my opinion.”

Yes - he sounds like one of the very few intelligent leaders in Europe. In Mark Steyn’s book “America Alone” he says the European governing elite spend their time being straitjackets for their people whom they think have the same base instincts that committed WWII and its atrocities. They’re fighting the forties war in the 21st Century, while the Muslims gradually take over Europe.


30 posted on 10/11/2009 2:23:12 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: GOPGuide

Czechoslovakia is a dagger aimed at the heart of Germay.


31 posted on 10/12/2009 5:14:13 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: GOPGuide
I remember this movie from somewhere

It's exactly what the Germans did to Czechoslovakia in March 1939, when Hitler flew in President Hacha and screamed at and browbeat him until Hacha signed away his country's independence.

32 posted on 10/12/2009 5:35:40 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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