Skip to comments.Judge Land Fines Orly Taitz $20K, File Copy of Order with State Bar of CA
Posted on 10/13/2009 7:45:31 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
When a lawyer files complaints and motions without a reasonable basis for believing that they are supported by existing law or a modification or extension of existing law, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer uses the courts as a platform for a political agenda disconnected from any legitimate legal cause of action, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer personally attacks opposing parties and disrespects the integrity of the judiciary, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer recklessly accuses a judge of violating the Judicial Code of Conduct with no supporting evidence beyond her dissatisfaction with the judges rulings, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law. When a lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law, that lawyer ceases to advance her cause or the ends of justice.
Regrettably, the conduct of counsel Orly Taitz has crossed these lines, and Ms. Taitz must be sanctioned for her misconduct. After a full review of the sanctionable conduct, counsels conduct leading up to that conduct, and counsels response to the Courts show cause order, the Court finds that a monetary penalty of $20,000.00 shall be imposed upon counsel Orly Taitz as punishment for her misconduct, as a deterrent to prevent future misconduct, and to protect the integrity of the Court. Payment shall be made to the United States, through the Middle District of Georgia Clerks Office, within thirty days of todays Order. If counsel fails to pay the sanction due, the U.S. Attorney will be authorized to commence collection proceedings.
(Full Order at the link.)
I suspect I’m getting my panelists and shows mixed up, but what the hey! LOL!
(Y’all aren’t even close!)
I'm a libertarian lawyer from Georgia. And you are?
Did you not see my post? The COLB posted by obama, has the words:
TERRIK has determined this COLB HAS NO LEGAL VERACITY because it was stamped with DATE FILED BY REGISTRAR instead of DATE ACCEPTED BY STATE REGISTRAR.
TerriK is wrong. A COLB requested from the state of Hawaii now says "Date Filed by Registrar." The new language does not make the document legally invalid.
Seriously, people. This is sort of a test of sanity here. She displayed conduct toward a judge that no lawyer can expect to get away with. She's been hammered for it, it's not a basis for any discovery about Obama’s records, and any appeal is a foregone lost cause. If you can't see that, you're not even trying to be objective.
Require what exactly? Production of a birth certificate? I don't think so.
"Are you saying that its okay for a president to remain in office, if indeed the vetting process shows him or her ineligible?"
Please point to anything I said that resembles that.
To date, nothing has shown Obama to be inelgible.
Hell no. Never gave her money, never intend to give her money, Obongo is still a liar and was most likely not born in the U.S.
Most certainly yes.
Which begs the question. What constitutes “help”?
If I stood on a street corner dressed as a circus bear and wore a sandwich board that said: “Obama is from Jupiter! Not a Natural Born Citizen”, I cannot imagine you'd think I was helping much.
And you'd be right.
The point of such an extreme example is simply that just because someone opposes a particular tactic or approach, especially a questionable one, doesn't mean that they oppose a goal.
Some of those that are getting labeled as “Trolls” are actively working to put legislation on the books in their states requiring specific rules and requirements for candidates to demonstrate eligibility.
The Constitution does require that the President be "14 years a resident" of the US. It may be that such a person is a natural born citizen, but is still excluded from the presidency in the same way a person under 35 years of age is.
“....actively working to put legislation on the books in their states....”
Which is fine if we aren’t all paupers, incarcerated, and/or blown to smithereens long before 2012. And even if Barry were only half as dangerous as he is, if he shouldn’t be there now, then now is the time to rectify.
Looks like this chapter of the Great Birth Certificate Controversy is about over. Time for a new Don Quixote.
For the most part you are wasting your time. Trying to teach people about legal principles such as standing, justicable controversies, political questions, etc., is nearly impossible when the response is to accuse the person trying to teach of being a troll or to accuse every judge who tries to follow the law and legal precedent of being biased and guilty of treason. The bottom line is that Oily Taitz has no business trying to practice law in the Federal Court system, She has no idea what she is doing and quite frankly, she has become an embarrassment to the Federal Bar.
In my opinion, any challenege to Obama's qualifications must come before the election from a person or political party that has a direct and personal stake in the outcome. Most states have election laws that provide a very narrow window of oppurtunity to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for Federal, state, or local office, in court, after the candidates name is placed upon the ballot, but before the election. We see these types of challanges all the time at the state and local level and they generally involve a challenge to the candidate's nominating petitions or residency within the district, that is initiated by an opposing candidate or polical party. Once the election is held, the focus shifts from the qualifications of the candidates to the number of votes and the qualificatons of the voters, and the only challenges that are allowed relate to the number of votes and the qualifications of a voter to vote in the election.
In my opinion, any judicial challenge to 0bama's qualifications should have been commenced by the GOP and/or McLame prior to the election as 0bama's name is placed on the ballot in each state. After the election is held, the only remedy is through the political process, i.e., impeachment. In addition, each state could pass a law that requires a candidate for POTUS to submit an originial or certified copy of the long form birth certificate as a condition precedent to getting his or her name on the state ballot. This requirement would give an opposing candidate or party specific grounds under state law as well as the constitution to challenge the qualifications of 0bama when his name is placed on the ballot in 2012.
It was an response to questions from constituents..a couple of weeks ago. LoL if you call them, and ask them how they arrived at the decision that he was qualified...report back to us what they say. ;-) consider it random poll question.
I didn't cite any web pages.
(http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html), that he had dual Kenyan citizenship, he opened this can of worms:
So if this is the problem, then how does seeing a birth certificate solve anything? People regularly say that he could end the questioning by releasing his birth certificate, but here you state flat-out that nothing about his birth certificate itself can end anything.
Admitting any type of dual citizenship quickly leads to legitimate questions about Obama's natural born citizenship status.
Not so much. Whether dual citizenship exists at birth is determined by foreign law. Do you want foreign countries determining who can and can't be President?
The way to clear these questions completely is by releasing all of the Hawaiian vital records and any Kenyan ones (his father was a government official in Kenya, and I think it is highly likely that he would have filed paperwork regarding the birth of Barack Hussein Obama II), any passports both current and expired, and details of his citizenship or visa status in Indonesia.
And how would producing any of those documents address any problems with his citizenship if the problem is dual citizenship? He admits he was born with dual citizenship; that's not disputed. How would birth certificates or passport records change that?
NS uses the Constitution like toilet paper. Anything he disagrees with, he throws it up as a shield. It doesn’t matter to him that Obongo and his pals sh*t on it nearly every day. He would rather Obongo stay in power forever and turn this country into another Cuba, than have our military remove a dictator. I guess he thinks our Constitution says dictators are ok. Deranged, a classic copy and paste fiend.
I’ll bite and post this question again: are you an attorney ?
I'll certainly grant you the liar part, but you're going to have to come up with something supporting the "not born in the U.S." claim.
Pass! Folks here getting riled.
I’m a threadjack and I’m okay
I sleep all night and I work all day...
Why am I holding Obama to a different standard? Because he is a lying, marxist sack of sh*t that lied about writing his own book (he didn’t). That lied about the inspiration his mom and dad had for conceiving him (Selma march was after his birth), lied about his relationship with Bill Ayers (They have a longstanding friendship), lied about his ties to the socialist NP party (he was a member), lied about his relations with ACORN (in every way imaginable), lied about his record on the 2nd amendment, lied about seeing a photo in Life magazine about a black man who tried to become white with chemicals but ended up badly scarred instead, blatantly lied when he said “I’ve never been a proponent of single payer healthcare”, lied about how his father ended up coming to the United States, lied about his relationship and the amount of money he received from Tony Rezko, lied about his relationship with Rashid Khalidi, is hiding his relationship with Khalid al-Mansour, lied when he claimed he has always been a Christian, lied about what he knew about his “mentor” Jeremiah’s anti-American, anti-jew views, lied about stopping smoking, lied about how he met his own wife, and has yet to let a day go by when he is not lying through his teeth.
Besides, I have relatives that know the Bidens. But by all means, take up that crusade.
Why do you want to know?
Not until the judge displayed the same belligerence towards her.
Maybe not, but in Virginia the new standard is a true copy of a short form BC with the raised seal(No Photocopies). Good luck getting a driver’s license or passport without one. They have really locked things down here after 9/11.
LOL! You wouldn’t have guessed anyway. I’m Garry Moore!
Yes, well we'll see where that gets her.
That could be a problem for her, if she doesn’t pay that fine, she is going to get 30 days in jail for Contempt.
He was also quite displeased at her specuation that that he had a financial interest in the outcome because he owned stock in Comcast and Microsoft, and she claimed the profits of those companies would suffer if Obama was removed.
LOL! Does he own them? She’s probably right, but saying it to a judge, oh no! No!
I asked because you wrote it was too late for vetting.
Why wouldn’t you want to disclose .. either way?
That's why we are working on this. We already know he was not vetted. We are after the proof, one way or another.
The constitution doesn't require production of a birth certificate.
Did they even have "birth certificates" back in the time of our founding? Mostly not. But today we do, so let's see it.
The constitutional provisions regarding election of a president have been followed.
Except for the part of requiring NBC status, it went off without a hitch (other than ACORN fraud)
Right. So how could "the vetting process shows him or her ineligible?"
Whatever the fine, it’s obviously worth it to her.
Yep, you're right.
So be it. Once Obama’s records are finally pried open, she will be a hero. Her book contract will pay more than her pro-bono work on these lawsuits.
How long until someone calls Buckhead a troll?
That would be you. Your contempt for the Constitution is as complete as your ignorance of it is.
That, is a lie. It’s a LIE. You can say you don’t believe Holder was there, the rest is a LIE. He had from 5 PM PST to 3PM PST the following day.
They do. DU. We know that don’t we? We found some of them.
And she appears to be trying her best to increase it's value to her every day. Now $20K, what will be the final total I wonder?
Charles Edward Lincoln, III her thrice disbarred felon law assistant was once hit with $150,000 in fines, wonder if she going for $200K
"There hasn't been any proof offered that a constitutional violation has occured."
"That's why we are working on this. We already know he was not vetted. We are after the proof, one way or another."
Great. When you get something, that's when you can consider the question of going to court. Not before. There would still be other hurdles, but only a crackpot lawyer would go to court with only speculation.
"Did they even have "birth certificates" back in the time of our founding? Mostly not. But today we do, so let's see it."
No they didn't. At least as a universal document that everyone gets, they are a relatively modern invention. My grandmother didn't have one.
The fact that they are common today doesn't mean the requirement suddenly pops into existence in the text of the constitution.
"The constitutional provisions regarding election of a president have been followed."
"Except for the part of requiring NBC status, it went off without a hitch (other than ACORN fraud)"
That's got nothing to do with the CONSTITUTIONAL provisions. Those procedures were followed. And again, there's no proof that Obama is not eligible.
So since you disagree with me, I take it that you're NOT satisfied with the evidence that Joe Biden is a natural born citizen, and thus qualified for his office?
You'd best start demanding his documentation too.
I support anyone who is pursuing Obama’s records. He’s a marxist and quite possibly, not an NBC.
Personally, the Federal Bar was an embarrassment to begin with, Standing issues only seem to come up when it is the Right that has a problem with it. I never hear about Standing being a problem when the Left goes to court. How rare is it when an Abortion, Environmental, or Civil Rights case is dismissed for Standing? It is amazing what a Lawyer can torture out of a very simple document and it has become a self-repeating process as those same lawyers become Judges or Senators.
Because I am not the issue and I won’t enable someone to make me the issue. If you have a legitimate reason for knowing I may answer.
Orly got a poorly presented case dismissed by a judge who told her so. Judges get to do that. Professionals don't respond with a hysterical screed accusing the judge of being a traitor. Lawyers that do respond that way can expect, and fully deserve, the treatment Dr. Taitz received.
Just because you support her position doesn't make it right or her behavior excusable. I would expect and deserve a serious smack down if I ever behaved that way to a court.