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1 posted on 10/15/2009 4:45:37 AM PDT by xcamel
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Polyvinyl chloride releases dioxin when burned. This is an undeniable scientific fact.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 4:47:56 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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Unenforcable jack ass law! Typical of a government which has not had a good idea for over 50 years. They are the most knee-jerk emotalaw-makers in the country next to California Commies.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 4:48:31 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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A favorite source of income for many in Alaska is to sell along the highways is pre-drilled burn barrels made from 55 gallon drums.

yeah its tougher Alaska...

Still though Anchorage may someday erect castle walls to keep its liberalmites from escaping to the wilds of rural conservative Alaska.


4 posted on 10/15/2009 4:48:49 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: xcamel

So I guess that whole “biomass” thing is out the window?
Unless you enrich someone else to burn your trash


5 posted on 10/15/2009 4:49:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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The ban excludes camp or cooking fires, celebratory bonfires, smudge pots to prevent frost damage to crops, and disposal of tree limbs and branches between May and March.

For now....

These people want everything banned.

http://burningissues.org/car-www/index.html

6 posted on 10/15/2009 4:54:50 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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I’m a New Yorker with a burn barrel in my yard. This article is nebulous...are they banning the burn barrel or the fires? We don’t burn garbage but we do burn large cardboard boxes, construction debris, and brush. I suppose I’ll get a chance to test this law soon enough...


7 posted on 10/15/2009 4:55:32 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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I have a 55 gallon burn barrel and an area where I burn tree limbs.
Trying to leave a HUGE carbon print here folks.
Also most folks where I live have at least 3 to 10 acres and they ALL burn piles of limbs etc.
Get the govt. out of our lives.


9 posted on 10/15/2009 4:58:17 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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Burn barrels = great fun when I grew up.

A cup of gas, a match, throw the match, and if the gas had seeped down into the burn barrel, whoom, like a cannon out came your garbage.

Had an old uncle on their farm who would always use too much gas in their big burn barrel. He also had had a stroke so we walked so slow. Threw the gas on the burn barrel, messed with the matches, threw the match, tried to walk away and it was like a small stick of dynamite going off. Garbage everywhere. My old uncle just looked up and said “what the hell”. He like that saying “what the hell”.


10 posted on 10/15/2009 5:02:23 AM PDT by HD1200
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I’ve been to areas of NY that are beyond the city snowplowing. How the f**k are the people I know up there going to dispose of garbage from December to March?


11 posted on 10/15/2009 5:02:49 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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Even though we've been under burn bans for much of the last several years, we burn a brush pile when we can. We NEVER burn anything worse than treated wood. No plastics.

Another concern in an area as dry as we've been is burning on windy days where sparks from even a burn barrel could escape it's confines.

We had an old guy who lives in the river valley below our neighborhood decide to burn his trash (in a barrel) on a day of 40+ mph winds. It quickly got out of control.

The Fire Dept came and warned us that if the winds changed, the fire could sweep up the hillside and put us in danger.

Luckily the wind relaxed and they were able to keep the fire under control, only burning a couple of fields and a few privacy fences.

It's idiots like this old guy who *spark* these sort of laws and ruin the convenience for the rest of us.

12 posted on 10/15/2009 5:02:51 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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I’m not sure if burn barrels are legal in my state or not (WV) and really don’t care. I burn anything that can be burned to save me the trouble of lugging trash to the end of the dirt road where I live, which is as far as the trash truck runs. I’m not particularly worried about being ticketed. I chain up and lock the cattle gate at the end of my driveway when I burn, and it’s nearly a 3/4 mile hike on a really steep driveway to reach my residence. I’m betting the 300+ lb tubs of lard that work for state aren’t going to make the hike to see if I’m burning trash or having a cookout.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 5:17:21 AM PDT by apillar
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I fully expect them to ban our burn barrels as well. I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.

They’ve outlawed leaf burning where I live because a few whiners complained about the smell, even though we were already limited to three days a week. They were helpful enough, however, to offer to vaccuum them up, for a small fee of course.

I am getting damn sick and tired of these nanny-state politicians telling us what we can and can’t do on our own freakin’ property. Enough is enough.


17 posted on 10/15/2009 5:19:08 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Bullsh*t)
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I miss the smell of burning leaves in the fall.....


19 posted on 10/15/2009 5:21:22 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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“Dioxin is a proven human carcinogen...”

No it isn’t.

“...and also increases the risk of a number of other diseases, including heart disease, diabetes and altered endocrine function”

No it doesn’t.

I have dealt with Carpenter and can tell you he is a fraud and a hack. His science is based on emotion and public perception, not data.
There have been tons of studies on the massive dioxin release in Seveso italy in the 70’s and NO increase in cancer or other long term effects were noted. The exposure in seveso was thousands of times higher than anywhere in NY.


24 posted on 10/15/2009 5:34:56 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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My best friend in 3rd grade had a backyard burn barrel, and once each week after school his chore was to burn trash. And he would always invite me over to watch. After a little time watching Speedracer on TV, we would head to the back yard, trash cans in hand. And when Mom wasn't home, he would always seem to find a aerosol can to throw in to cause an explosion
25 posted on 10/15/2009 5:39:07 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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I figure burn barrels are going to be on every street corner in the cities this winter. People gotsta stay warm when they’re homeless.


26 posted on 10/15/2009 5:40:22 AM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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Light the celebretory trash bonfire and lets party!


35 posted on 01/26/2010 6:24:51 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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