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BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
HumanEvents.com ^ | 10/15/09 | Connie Hair

Posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:42 PM PDT by Newton

House Ways & Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) held a hearing this morning to certify that H.R. 3200 -- the main House Obamacare bill which was the subject of all the town hall rage in August -- has met all requirements to pass as a “budget reconciliation” measure.

Under reconciliation, the bill can be passed by a simple majority vote in the Senate -- just 51 votes -- and will be given preferential treatment on the House floor as well. The Dems have apparently invoked the “nuclear option” to shut out Republicans and ensure the bill is passed before the end of the year. (see link for more....)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; corruption; cultureofcorruption; democratcorruption; healthcare; military; nuclear; nuclearoption; obama; obamacare; obamathugs; politics; reconciliation; socialism; veterans
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To: dr_lew

Well, they might kill me, but I doubt they will ever succeed in subduing me. Liberty or death, that’s the only choice, as far as I’m concerned.


221 posted on 10/16/2009 7:45:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: IIntense

It is.


222 posted on 10/16/2009 7:47:15 AM PDT by sport
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To: Gritty

Yes, the R Day draws near...Maybe by next year.

Civil War/Revolution between the right and left in this country has been in the cards since the late 1960s. In 2005 I wrote this on my blog after a quick study of the hate speech coming from Leftist movies, books and blogs:

“The end result to this decades long verbal and written assault by the American Left ruling class can only end in violence, since the decision of the ballot box by a majority of their fellow countrymen is the rejection of the largely unstated Leftist dogma of socialism and atheism in favor of constitutionalism and Christianity. The Left worships the State; The Right worships God. There can be no compromise.

It is a fact of history that no ruling class has went quietly into the night. When in 1860 with the election of Lincoln as President, the South realized that the Southern domination of the Union was fast coming to an end and that their only recourse was separation from the Union and violence if that separation were opposed.

The contemporary situation runs on parallel tracks: a decades long increasingly bitter public debate that has been marked by numerous attempts at compromise and peaceful transfer of power on the part of a rising new ideology and renaissance of faith, the political ideology of capitalism combined with the moral force of Christianity, has meet a roadblock in the form of an atheistic and socialistic political, academic and governmental establishment.

The optimist wants to believe that this roadblock can be removed by peaceful and lawful means; the realist understands the cold hard truth that such diametrically opposed forces can only resolve their differences on the battlefield as was the case in the Civil War of 1861 to 1865, which many Christians believed was a terrible judgment of God against the nation for the sin of slavery.

How much worse is the collective guilt as a nation for the sin of abortion? At least the slave was granted life and could by his efforts hope to free himself from his condition, but the dead have no recourse. Thus the sin of abortion that is nowhere listed as a civil rights of Americans in the U.S. Constitution and is a sin against law and God.

Thomas Jefferson when addressing the consequences of slavery in the United States said, “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever: that considering numbers, nature and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by supernatural interference! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVIII, 1782. ME 2:227

Jefferson could be speaking today about the issue of abortion which has claimed the lives over 30 million innocent Americans.

Indeed all Americans should tremble for the wrath of God in the form of civil war is terrible justice. Please mark the words of Shakespeare concerning an ancient Roman civil war that stands only a few years in the future for America. It will be a civil war without the benefit large standing armies fighting on battlefield but a war fought in neighborhoods, towns, villages, countryside and cities against a ruthless domestic enemy who will fight by means of bombings, assassinations and arson and all the other black arts of terrorism with the danger of a dictatorship of the Left or the Right as the outcome of conflict.

Domestic fury and fierce civil strife
Shall cumber all the parts of Italy;
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter’d with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar’s spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch’s voice
Cry ‘Havoc,’ and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
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223 posted on 10/16/2009 7:50:26 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: meyer
Why is Soros still alive?

God seems to be giving him time to repent. I wouldn't want to say He's overly optimistic...

224 posted on 10/16/2009 7:51:33 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Dead Corpse

Yes, Indeed! This is the way American Patriots will stand against the Imperial Federal Government when the “R Day” comes - Out in the open and in disciplined ranks with uniforms of some type and fighting under the law of war.

I suspect our Leftist enemies will fight back with terrorism, cowardly back alley assassinations and gang banger drive by shootings.


225 posted on 10/16/2009 7:58:48 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: CatOwner

I fear you are correct. The American public has become complacent and downright LAZY! The “let the OTHER guy do it” axiom is all to familiar these days. God help us, I hope I’M wrong...


226 posted on 10/16/2009 8:08:41 AM PDT by pawnshop dave
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To: Ronbo1948
Out in the open and in disciplined ranks with uniforms of some type and fighting under the law of war.

That'd be one of the quicker ways to commit suicide.

However, discussing tactics on the unsecured communications of the Intarwebs is both stupid and possibly illegal.

227 posted on 10/16/2009 8:11:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: maine-iac7
http://www.world-newspapers.com/
228 posted on 10/16/2009 8:11:20 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ilgipper

Dems obamanoid are in a hurry as they dream to own USSA turning it in a SSocialist state where they control everything.
“Free” Health Care and benefits for whinning crowds and amnestied illegals who will become owned/granted fans and thugs.

Dems are probably dreaming that after that kind of “coup” they will hold the power for a very long time in SSocialist USSA


229 posted on 10/16/2009 8:11:25 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: ilgipper

“I’ve never seem a suicide performed in public before./....”

November 04, 2008 ring any bells.


230 posted on 10/16/2009 8:13:26 AM PDT by mo
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To: randomhero97
Add that to the fact the leftists and their cult followers hate us and we hate them.

Those cult followers are the 51% of the country that do not pay income taxes and vote for more freebies. Otherwise known as the proletariat. The leftists use their (proletariat's) envy and covetousness to cement power by promising them ever more freebies....like "affordable" health insurance and "affordable" college education.

That hate has eventually got to erupt.

It seems that historically it has where the proletariat have been stirred to violence, so as to take from the bourgeois what they think is their due. I don't recall it failing anywhere it has been orchestrated by the left, do you? I'm not very confident the slide can be stopped here, it is too far along and deeply entrenched over a couple of generations now. I fear it may take a huge coordinated revolt and push back by all taxpaying individuals and businesses, but government has become too intertwined with everyday life for everyone to quit doing business with it. Besides, more than a few of those individuals and businesses fancy themselves the elite masters of the coming age of slavery.

I personally am in the unenviable position of being caught between a marriage of the ruling class and the ever expanding dependent class. How to divorce the two is the $64,000 question. Abort the ruling class is looking like a viable option.

231 posted on 10/16/2009 8:17:14 AM PDT by Kudsman (A lifetime of public service = a lifetime of getting serviced by the public.- Mark Steyn)
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To: Ulysse
Dems are probably dreaming that after that kind of “coup” they will hold the power for a very long time in SSocialist USSA

Only as long as the tax slaves keep sending in their "donations." Once the slaves realize they're enslaved, things will change. The Socialists will run out of other peoples money. That's when the chaos will really begin.

They can't survive without our money, but we can survive just fine without theirs.

232 posted on 10/16/2009 8:22:12 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Newton

Now’d be a great time for Senate Republicans to take their balls out of the safe deposit box.


233 posted on 10/16/2009 8:23:04 AM PDT by RockinRight (The liberals' idea of tax relief is to give everyone a tube of K-Y Jelly.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I LOVE IT!!! It’s kind of like DA vinci meets the twilight zone meets reality!!! WAY COOL!!!!


234 posted on 10/16/2009 8:24:49 AM PDT by pawnshop dave
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To: RockinRight
Now’d be a great time for Senate Republicans to take their balls out of the safe deposit box.

Yeah, right. When was the last time a Republican did anything to free the slaves?
They're the best we've got right now, but they suck.

235 posted on 10/16/2009 8:28:02 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Newton; All
Whew!

It's a good thing we listened to McCain, Hatch, and the gang and didn’t use the nuclear option for getting judges confirmed!

What was their reason again? Oh yeah — because then someone else could use it in the future after setting such a bad precedent. You know, if the GOP shows restraint, then the Democrats would honor that same comity when the day comes that they are in control again.

So now we didn't get the judges confirmed, and the Dems are using the “nuclear option” at the first sign of opposition!

Great job, GOP members of the gang-of-12/14!!!!!
Your wisdom is almost as sharp as your ability to judge the character of your Democrat counterparts!

236 posted on 10/16/2009 8:38:27 AM PDT by TitansAFC (Socialism is a disease; Sarah Palin is the cure. Palin/Romney 2012 or Palin/Gingrich 2012!!)
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To: Freddd

Hey. You got it. Communists will have to be dragged out of there by force even after they lose.


237 posted on 10/16/2009 8:41:59 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: G Larry
Yeah, I saw a sign at a Tea Party that said: Shove it down our throats in '09 and we'll ram it up your A$$ in '10!
238 posted on 10/16/2009 8:46:00 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Newton

A simple solution to this problem; make sure the Democrats are no longer the majority as of January 1 2011.


239 posted on 10/16/2009 8:54:08 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ronbo1948

Great, great posting.

I go with a government of the Right as the outcome of conflict.


240 posted on 10/16/2009 9:09:27 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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