Posted on 10/16/2009 10:50:33 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
I was in the district helping out Hoffman this past week ... exciting candidate! He’s got a shot!
“Michael Steele still doesn’t get it...”
He gets it. The RNC gets it. YOU don’t gt it. WE don’t get it.
the oldest con in the world is “Good cop-Bad cop”.....that’s the Republican-Democrat con...the Republicrat Con.......
Don`t stay home,vote for the independent conservative,even if you have to write one in.Send a message to these rat wanna be`s that they can go to hell but the lesser of two evils argument will not work anymore.
Speaking of DeMint, what's with MNJohnnie's comments about how the RINO will "go to DC and Makes Eric Cantor Speaker and Jim Demint Majority leader". That of course, assumes they're the party choice for the position, so more likely the scenario would be the RINO gets to decide whether to make John Boehner Speaker and Mitch McConnell Majority Leader. When that scenario has come up in the past and the RINO has to be the "deciding vote", they've cast their lot with the Dems. Just ask Jim Jeffords. If the Senate was split 50-50 and we had to "count on" someone like Mark Kirk to crowd the winner, all the Dems would have to do is promise him a better committee chairmanship and he'd vote to make his pal Dick Durbin majority leader without a second thought. RINOs sell out to the highest bidder.
I have caught disruptor's on FR who claim to be "conservative" but constantly promote the RAT party over Republicans, arguing BS like "your average southern Dem is more conservative than any yankee Republican". One alleged "conservative" even went so far as promote Max Cleland for Governor and another urged freepers to vote for liberal scumbag Mark Warner over Mark Easley. I've reported freepers like that to the mods and gotten them banned. Rabscuttle trashing RINOs is quite different from disruptor's here promoting leftist Democrats.
I haven't seen anyone here argue that that Scozzafava's RAT "opponent" Bill Owens is "conservative" or that he'll vote with our side for Speaker. DailyKos simply pointed that RINO Scozzafava is the MOST LIBERAL on the three candidates in the race. That's true. Scozzafava is very far left of center and Owens is slightly left of center and is being careful not to promote any extreme left views. Neither one of them is conservative, just Owens seems to be aware that he's not running in a moonbat district so he caters to the center more. As Hoffman has said, both of his opponents are more liberal than conservative and are unacceptable. That's why we're supporting Hoffman.
It's an extremely rare circumstance that a Democrat candidate is worth voting for over a Republican, but once in a blue moon it does occur (NY's 23rd is NOT one of those times -- Owens would make a lousy congressman too and have to defeated in 2012). But the idea that "any RINO is better than any conservative Democrat" is absolutely wrong. Anyone who watched corrupt socialist criminal George Ryan single handily destroy my state knows that. How would have things been worse under his pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage centrist Dem opponent? Feel free to explain cuz I have yet to see anyone show me how RINO George was "better"
One post made a great point -- alot of "pragmatic" types here yapping about how we must "always support the Republican" actually supported socialist DEMOCRAT Joe Lieberman for Senator. How did that work out? Not only did you throw your support to a RAT, you threw you support to a known hard-left liberal RAT. Talk about pot calling the kettle black. They should have known better than to support Al Gore's running mate.
Another excellent point was raised about our own Chicagolady, a freeper who was nominated for Congress in Rahm Emanuel's vacant seat. She was the REPUBLICAN nominee. So how much $$$ did the RNC and NRCC spend on her race? Zero. So the excuse that they "have to" spend money on Scozzafava because she's the "Republican nominee" doesn't hold water. I don't expect them to endorse a third party candidate, but I find it disgusting that they would spend money promoting a socialist liberal because the NYGOP was dumb enough to run her.
Finally, I disagree with TitansAFC's comments (which are oft repeated on FR) that we should give RINOs a pass if they're running in "blue states and blue districts". The most damaging RINOs in this country have been those "electable" types from "blue states" -- just look at what happened in the last 10 years with Jeffords, Chafee, and Specter. Give Specter a pass simply because he's running in a "blue state"? Hell no! I agree that we should hold our nose for "moderates" occasionally if they're "better than the Democrat", but RINOs like Mark Kirk are either as liberal or more liberal than many Democrats in their own state. Kirk represents a district is northern suburban Chicago that gave Obama 61%. Does that make his Marxist record acceptable? I live in a district in SOUTHERN suburban Chicago that gave Obama 61%, and my DEMOCRAT state senator is pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, and anti-illegal. That's right, we have the same percentage of Obama voters as Kirk, but even our Democrats aren't as liberal as him. Why should I elect someone more liberal than the Democrats I have now?
The bottom line is the GOP is a national party, not a regional party. We have to stand for something. I don't think a Republican has to agree with me 100% of the time, or even 80% of the time, but at the very least anyone who calls themselves "Republican" should support 51% of the Republican platform. If Kirk and Scozzafava want to vote liberal the majority of the time, that's fine, they should be honest and run on the party label they support -- Democrats.
Let’s have a freepathon with money then like we did for Joe Wilson..
That is an RNC hack question. The other one that gives you away as a party hack is “How much are you being paid by ACORN?”
There is more to live for than personal gain and power, how about wanting to fix something badly broken ? Your R party!
I think we figured out dems are up to no good. The problem with your argument is it is a purely ‘lesser of two evils’ argument.
This assumes that if republicans waste $1 and dems waste $1.10, then republicans will leave us 0.10 ahead so we made out.
Problem is that republicans misrepresent capitalism and markets and conservativism so their screw ups teach everyone the WRONG lessons. Now democrat screw ups teach all the RIGHT lessons.
What do you think things would be like NOW with a President McCain?? Heaven forbid.
No, the problem is the RNC and RNCC should have backed the conservative in the race, instead of this liberal. She’d be the most liberal one in the entire caucus.
Looks like the MSM is promoting Huckabee fo9r the next RNC loser.
Take the CT Senate race in 2006. The contest was between Joe Lieberman, an indepedent Dem, and Ned Lamont, a moonbat Dem. The GOP candidate was a joke. As a result, national Republicans rallied around Lieberman.
In the NY-23, the Republican candidate is a disgrace. Yet the national GOP is rallying around her instead of the 3rd party conservative candidate.
Why does anyone send money to national or state committees, they only use it to screw you!!!!
Send it to candidates only!!!!
Even when I was on the State Central Committee for 18 years i would never give them one cent to spend against me!!
“Because of this I won’t donate to the RNC this year.”
Why only this year?
yes, go for it
i don’t know how to do a freepathon.
But the Rinos represent the knife in the back, a far more despicable enemy.
One reason to vote in the primaries is to nominate someone that can win in the general election. Some states will NOT go for a strict conservative no matter how much you want them to. Taking one step at a time.
Really? Ronald Reagan must have missed the memo on this one when he won 49 states. Funny how the Dems don't insist "liberals can't win" in any state voted McCain and feel the need to run Bush-loving DINOs in "red states" like North Dakota. Instead they run far-left commies and win anyway. That's why the Dems have a solid majority in the Senate right now, all their RATs from "red states" like Montana and North Dakota loyally do their bidding instead of undermining them.
Back in '98 we were told by the party leaders that a conservative "will never win" in Illinois and that we "had" to run RINO Loleta Dickerson if we wanted the state to go Republican. Fortunately we didn't take that advice, we nominated "unelectable right-winger" Peter Fitzgerald and won anyway. But now it looks the RINOs may get their way with Mark Kirk.
Looks like we're gonna continue having a commie majority in the Senate as long as the Dems run real Democrats in all 50 states but we continue to run phony Republicans in their states.
gave $10.
Sometimes the fights between “brothers” are fiercer than the fights between two enemies. Sad, but an ancient truth.
But the "kinder and gentler" path to giving up American national sovereignty and personal, popular sovereignty is paved by enemies, not brothers.
More evidence that Democrat & Republican parties mean no difference...two sides of the same coin...two wings of the same bird.
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