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Obama Was Not Born in U.S., Republicans Say
Angus Reid ^ | 10/22/09 | staff

Posted on 10/22/2009 12:46:04 PM PDT by pissant

(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Three-in-ten Americans think their current head of state was not born in the United States, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies. 70 per cent of respondents believe Barack Obama was born in the U.S., while 30 per cent do not.

While only 13 per cent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 per cent among Independents and 51 per cent among Republican Party backers.

In American elections, candidates require 270 votes in the Electoral College to win the White House. In November 2008, Democratic nominee Obama secured a majority of electoral votes, defeating Republican candidate John McCain. In January, Obama became the first African American president in U.S. history.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution establishes that only "natural born" American citizens are eligible to become presidents.

Last year, the Obama campaign team released a Certification of Live Birth, which states that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961. The State of Hawaii only allows for the release of an original birth certificate under "extenuating circumstances."

Earlier this month, former House majority leader Tom Delay discussed his views on Obama’s birth, saying, "Why wouldn’t the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate? You have to show a birth certificate to play Little League baseball. It’s a question that should be answered. It’s in the Constitution that you have to be a natural born citizen of the United States to be president."

(Excerpt) Read more at angus-reid.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; kenyabelieveit; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; polls
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To: Responsibility2nd

Half a loaf is better than none?


61 posted on 10/22/2009 1:39:41 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Tax Government

Yup. Yet we have an entire cabal of Obama enablers right here on FR that heap nothing but scorn on the “birthers”


62 posted on 10/22/2009 1:40:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Don Corleone

He said his father was a Kenyan. That in itself disqualifies him!!!
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I believe that was the intent of the founders without a doubt but it is very likely that a modern court might say that ANYONE born in the United States is a natural born citizen regardless of parentage.

Personally I don’t think it would even make sense to put the language in the constitution unless there was a clear understanding at the time that natural born meant two American citizen parents and I believe that anyone born to two citizen parents could have been born in Canada, Mexico or even Kenya and still be a natural born citizen. The hooplah over McCain’s birthplace ended up saying exactly that, that he is a natural born citizen even though not born in this country because he is the son of PARENTS (plural) who were American citizens. Of course that was not a COURT decision so it is not binding in any way.

The trend now is to assume there are only two categories of citizen, natural born and naturalized but I don’t believe this was the intent of the founders. Unfortunately the answer lies not in the wording of the constitution itself but in the commonly understood definitions of the day.

It boggles the mind to imagine that the founders intended that someone born the son of an American girl who was stil of minor status and a father who had british citizenship could be an American president.


63 posted on 10/22/2009 1:40:12 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: STARWISE

That is the Donofrio argument. I don’t subscribe to it, necessarily. But I think it needs to be heard before the SCOTUS.


64 posted on 10/22/2009 1:41:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

As President with almost a third of population questioning your eligibility, an "honorable man" would pony up the details. But then, I'm reasonable certain at this point based upon his month's in office thus far that Mr. Obama is not exactly the poster child for honorable men.


65 posted on 10/22/2009 1:42:24 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: pissant
What kind of name is Burka Abeam, anyway?

66 posted on 10/22/2009 1:43:11 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: pissant

Polling Data

As you may have heard over the last few months, there have been groups demanding to see President Obama’s birth certificate. Do you believe that Obama was born in the United States of America or not?

I believe he was born in the U.S.

All
70%

Dem.
87%

Rep.
49%

Ind.
75%

I do not believe he was born in the U.S.

All
30%

Dem
13%

Rep.
51%

Ind.
25%


67 posted on 10/22/2009 1:43:24 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: TigersEye

Don’t forget about his relations with ACORN. He worked for them.


68 posted on 10/22/2009 1:43:34 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Izzy Dunne

LOL


69 posted on 10/22/2009 1:44:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Eastern African Standard-Online edition
June 27,2004

Kenyan born Obama all ready for Senate

70 posted on 10/22/2009 1:46:18 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: pissant

Does he have hidden records in that regard? The list is open to expansion.


71 posted on 10/22/2009 1:47:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Imagine the uproar when people imagine what Rush says?)
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To: broncobilly

Re: Kenyans hated the English colonials and overthrew them with the help of Marxists. They pointed out that Obama shows all the hatred of the English and the affinity for Marxism that is typical of educated post-colonial Kenyans.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/IssueDividedLoyalties.htm


72 posted on 10/22/2009 1:48:54 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives; Red Steel

It’s funny. Remember at the beginning of summer, the sudden MSM torrent of articles on the birthers, ridiculing us and repeating Media Matters and FactCheck’s bogus horsecrap? They did that in a coordinated attempt to finally stamp the notion out. Guess what, it did not work.

And I’ll be you anything that they recognize it did not work, and will not be trumpeting these poll numbers on their front pages or leading off their nightly news.


73 posted on 10/22/2009 1:49:13 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Wonder who his puppetmasters are? Aside from Ayers, that is.

I think ROM and Axelhole are to big 'uns.

74 posted on 10/22/2009 1:49:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Imagine the uproar when people imagine what Rush says?)
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To: TigersEye; All

Well, I know he worked as their lawyer, so it’s possible the legal records might exist, but I haven’t seen them? Has anyone?


75 posted on 10/22/2009 1:50:07 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Americans with a functioning brain suspect Zero is a stooge put there via a plot to destroy our country. Find the traitors and you will have the answers for impeachment and cleaning out Gestapo Czars.


76 posted on 10/22/2009 1:50:18 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: TigersEye

Those boys are the puppetmaster’s helpers, not the puppetmaster.


77 posted on 10/22/2009 1:50:59 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: exit82; pissant

Do you believe Obama to be a marxist quisling?
Actually, I believe he is a Muslim Marxist quisling.
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Actually he is a Muslim Marxist Narcissist Quisling Queen.


78 posted on 10/22/2009 1:51:26 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: pissant
"Earlier this month, former House majority leader Tom Delay discussed his views on Obama’s birth, saying, "Why wouldn’t the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate? "

Dern birthers

79 posted on 10/22/2009 1:54:08 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Burka Abeam [humorous Obama typo]
Waronguns.blogspot.com ^ | December 11, 2008 | David Codrea

Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:59:52 PM by Daffynition

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2150092/posts


80 posted on 10/22/2009 1:57:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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