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Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23 (Santorum joins Palin, Bachmann, Thompson, Armey, Forbes)
Yahoo ^ | 10/23/09 | Andy Barr

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:19:43 AM PDT by Libloather

Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23
Andy Barr – Fri Oct 23, 7:12 pm ET

Some of the most prominent names in national Republican Party politics are lining up against the GOP nominee in a key upstate New York House special election, the latest being former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who weighed in Friday.

In endorsing Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman in the Nov. 3 contest, Santorum joined former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachmann, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, and former presidential candidate Steve Forbes, all of whom announced their backing for the conservative third-party candidate this week.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty suggested Friday that he might be the next well-known Republican to break with the party establishment and support Hoffman. When asked about the race Friday during an interview with ABC, he expressed frustration with GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava and said he will “probably” endorse in the race.

Scozzafava, a state assemblywoman who supports gay marriage, abortion rights and has a close relationship with leading labor officials in her region, has been the target of sustained criticism from conservatives who claim that she is so liberal that they cannot in good conscience support her candidacy. As evidence, they point to her unofficial endorsement from the leading liberal blog Daily Kos.

While Scozzafava can point to many other prominent conservatives who support her bid—including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill—this week’s surge of leading conservatives to Hoffman’s camp is a troubling sign for her campaign and the national GOP establishment since several of the recent Hoffman endorsers have significant followings and represent the most energetic part of the Republican base.

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1 posted on 10/24/2009 4:19:44 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Isn't it the case that this woman is "so liberal" that she's stealing her own campaign funds and transferring them to the personal bank accounts of her relatives?

Tine for Newt Gingrich to jump ship as well!

2 posted on 10/24/2009 4:23:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Libloather

This is good news from two fronts:

First, it is great to see conservatives rally around another conservative.

Second, it shows that Sarah Palin is the political leader of the conservative movement.


3 posted on 10/24/2009 4:24:34 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Libloather

10 days to go ‘til the election. If Hoffman can keep momentum he should just squeeze out a win. I’m not sure who would be more upset about the win, Obama or the Republican National Committee.


4 posted on 10/24/2009 4:24:37 AM PDT by saganite
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To: Libloather
and represent the most energetic part of the Republican base.

What?

LOL!

Andy you couldn't catch a clue if Blue showed you where it was!

5 posted on 10/24/2009 4:25:18 AM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: Libloather

Did you notice the order of the list.....Madame President, then the others.... seems like a trend is developing


6 posted on 10/24/2009 4:25:46 AM PDT by The Wizard
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To: Libloather

It doesnt matter if she wins or the dem nominee wins, they will both vote liberal.

So sending the message to the democrats that we will only support the conservative candidates

will send a chill up their spine that wont quit.


7 posted on 10/24/2009 4:26:08 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: sausageseller

Opps. I think you screwd up. LOL!


8 posted on 10/24/2009 4:26:22 AM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Second, it shows that Sarah Palin is the political leader of the conservative movement.

Excellent point.

9 posted on 10/24/2009 4:27:29 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: muawiyah

Is Newt a true conservative? He jumped on the global warming train.


10 posted on 10/24/2009 4:28:21 AM PDT by paguch
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To: Libloather

I hope she isn’t getting funds from the GOP.


11 posted on 10/24/2009 4:29:15 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Libloather
a number of top Republicans are warning that undercutting their own nominee sets a bad precedent before heading into the consequential 2010 midterm election

So, maybe you need to pick your candidates a bit more carefully in the future. We will be watching you.

12 posted on 10/24/2009 4:32:34 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I hope she isn’t getting funds from the GOP.

Scozzafava? Yes, she is. Bucket loads.

13 posted on 10/24/2009 4:33:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If they won't "secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity," they won't secure yours either.)
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To: Libloather

Palin will have to leave the increasingly socialist Republicrat party if she is to have any chance of advancing the Conservative cause.


14 posted on 10/24/2009 4:33:20 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Libloather

Conservative Republicans? Mmm-maybe they are starting to get the message. Re-adopt conservative values or go for a hike. Can you hear us now Michael Steele?


15 posted on 10/24/2009 4:34:13 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: paguch
True Conservatives take the position(s) that "even if Global Warming occurs" ~ (1) It's probably good for us, (2) It's happened before, (3) It's not a reason to go Commie.

Newt's well within current standards.

Still, the whole GW crowd are begining to look pretty stupid ~ hasn't been any for the last 11 years.

Worth reading up on are the science news stories about how certain viruses INFECT cyanobacter in the ocean and cause them to ramp up their oxygen production.

The implications of that particular piece of knowledge are truly profound ~ first of all, the researchers tell us this combo provide HALF the oxygen in our atmosphere. Further, there are probably other combos pulling apart CO2, and other chemicals.

The things we don't know how the great machinery of "Life on Earth" works probably far exceed what we now know.

The GW folks all suffer from extreme hubris and turn out to be anti-intellectual!

16 posted on 10/24/2009 4:37:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Newt’s problem is that he’s looking at the empty seat on the floor of the house, instead of the person who’s going to fill it. He doesn’t seem to realize that if she’s elected she’s going to be a reliable vote for the Democrats regardless of the “R” after her name.


17 posted on 10/24/2009 4:37:14 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Libloather
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty

Despartly trying to keep up with the Palins...

18 posted on 10/24/2009 4:37:36 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Libloather

This article has reminded me of a call we got this week.

The RNC called to ask for money by invoking our great conservative senator Jim DeMint’s name. Funny, they didn’t say a thing about Lindsey Graham.

Don’t let them use the party’s few conservatives to raise money for a party that won’t yet take a conservative stand and is full of mostly RINOs.

Donate instead directly to the candidate of your choice, not the RNC.


19 posted on 10/24/2009 4:38:25 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: paguch
Is Newt a true conservative? He jumped on the global warming train.

Newt jumped the shark long ago. Now he is just an embarrassment.

20 posted on 10/24/2009 4:39:28 AM PDT by KevinB (Those who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either being made.)
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To: KevinB

Amen. Newt is all over the board which appears self-serving. Conservatives can’t count on him as a consistent leader.


21 posted on 10/24/2009 4:44:56 AM PDT by pke
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To: mvpel
Newt doesn't care how they vote obviously ~ he's simply more focused on organizing the House.

We all know that if you don't have the power to organize the House you can't control anything.

Still, it would be good for the family bag lady to step down and let the Conservative win this time ~ he'll vote WITH the Republicans AND, best of all, he'll help organize the House.

22 posted on 10/24/2009 4:47:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Libloather

Where Sarah Palin leads, the others will follow.


23 posted on 10/24/2009 4:48:30 AM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: Libloather

Become a Hoffman fan on Facebook-
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Doug-Hoffman/104731159040?ref=nf

Scozzafava 328 supporters

Hoffman 1,343 supporters


24 posted on 10/24/2009 4:49:16 AM PDT by seton89
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I second that. Sarah could be just what the doctor ordered.


25 posted on 10/24/2009 4:49:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: paguch
Is Newt a true conservative? He jumped on the global warming train.

Newt is and should be named a Chameleon

Through 20 odd years of watching his shifting he has proven it to me at least.

As for the artical GOOD going for the Conservatives to say NO MORE supporting Rino's and Liberal's getting onto the conservative ticket.

26 posted on 10/24/2009 4:49:59 AM PDT by jedi150
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To: Libloather

The GOP’s national apparatus has not only dumped money down a rathole for the sake of a (figurative and literal) loser, they have blundered into a situation where people like Newt Gingrich are “outing” themselves. The former is unfortunate, the latter is serendipitous.


27 posted on 10/24/2009 4:51:15 AM PDT by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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To: Libloather

Are we heading toward two parties, Republicans and Conservatives? It seems the Democrat party is on a course toward self-destruction and will be only a fringe movement, while Republicans will go increasingly liberal to pick up disenchanted Democrats, and Conservatives will pick up disenchanted Republicans.


28 posted on 10/24/2009 4:55:17 AM PDT by Marylander (Obama: A Pain ... and ... a Pill.)
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To: saganite
“I’m not sure who would be more upset about the win, Obama or the Republican National Committee.”

Both can “expletive deleted”.

LLS

29 posted on 10/24/2009 4:56:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: paguch
newt is a dim... a pelosi, hildebeast loving... mcjuanabee loving dim.

LLS

30 posted on 10/24/2009 4:57:42 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
The repubics have spent the past 12 years undercutting everything CONSERVATIVE in America... screw the repubics!

LLS

31 posted on 10/24/2009 4:58:47 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Libloather
The candidates that get my backing are the ones that understand that the Constitution is "Secularly Sacred" if such a term makes sense.

When they swear to uphold it, they need to be able to mean that oath.

Sadly, George Bush, (both of them) Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, The two Maine-iac senators and a whole lot of other Rinos are not and never were true constitutionalists.

32 posted on 10/24/2009 5:18:37 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

If Hoffman ends up winning this, will we see a major shift in the party? This is interesting - even more so than the gubenatorial races in NJ & VA.

This is a gamble for the GOP and the “Palin” conservatives. The status quo GOP sees the writing on the wall and is desperately trying to hang on to the party reins.

This is the first battle in the war for the GOP.


33 posted on 10/24/2009 5:25:42 AM PDT by CTyank
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To: Libloather

The bottom line issue is knowing who is on your side.

What good does it do to have Snowe in the Senate, when on important votes she abandons you, does not protect your back. In fact, she isn’t with us on most votes. What is really gained by keeping an acknowledged sympathizer of the enemy camp free to roam within your camp?

Why have Scozzafava if she’s simply going to vote against you? Why not have the lines drawn so you can at least count your votes accurately?

If your supposed friend shoots at you from within your own lines, all you’ve done is aid the enemy.


34 posted on 10/24/2009 5:34:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Libloather
What better place for the Revolution to start than in the Republican party?

Once we have that back where it belongs, we can get to work on the really heavy lifting and take our country back, too.

35 posted on 10/24/2009 5:38:42 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO)
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To: CTyank

I find it fascinating to see who has endorsed up front. Those will be the names of the future leaders. Everyone else who endorses now will just be an “also endorsed”.


36 posted on 10/24/2009 5:40:48 AM PDT by LinnKeyes2000 (Palin/(some other conservative type)2012)
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To: Marylander

with the blue dogs failing to fall in line thus far you can probably argue both parties are in a splintering process. To my way of thinking,the 2 party system is not enough. I don’t want 6 or 7 like in some European countries but 4 could be perfect. I suspect the centrist dems would knock off quite a few libs and the conservatives would do the same to the Republicans.
And before i’m flamed,yes,i know theres a conservative party already but as of yet, and its not like its been a short time,they’ve not made an impact on the national stage. A few good men and women such as Sarah,DeMint,Thompson would give them plenty of standing nationally.


37 posted on 10/24/2009 5:47:00 AM PDT by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Libloather

“While Scozzafava can point to many other prominent conservatives who support her bid—including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill—this week’s surge of leading conservatives to Hoffman’s camp is a troubling sign for her campaign and the national GOP establishment since several of the recent Hoffman endorsers have significant followings and represent the most energetic part of the Republican base.”

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‘If you won’t represent our views.
Don’t claim to speak for us!’


38 posted on 10/24/2009 5:49:13 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: muawiyah
Time for Newt Gingrich to jump ship as well!

I wish he would jump ship and swim far away. He is a "pseudo conservative" and a hack who is only in it for the money.

39 posted on 10/24/2009 5:53:01 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: muawiyah

I am afraid that from now on, after this endorsement, Newt Gingrichs’ reasoning shall always be suspect in my mind.


40 posted on 10/24/2009 5:53:03 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: paguch
Newt seems to be a good historian, but he consistently jumps on the wrong bandwagon, just like McCain. I could NEVER support Newt for office again. He was going great as leader of the conservative Repubs when Speaker and screwed up.

vaudine

41 posted on 10/24/2009 5:54:09 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: paguch
I remember back in the 1980's everyone was up in arms about soil erosion and deforestation, but farmers and conservationists quickly calmed these "fears" by adopting tough measures that greatly reduced the amount of soil washoff and replanting trees after they had been harvested.

Now that global warming is starting to fade away, I wonder what their next panic area will be.

42 posted on 10/24/2009 5:55:20 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: paguch

I believe Newt has aligned himself with Cantor, Jindal, Jeb, McCain, Mitt, et al, ... GOP-lite.


43 posted on 10/24/2009 5:56:56 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Libloather
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty suggested Friday that he might be the next well-known Republican to break with the party establishment and support Hoffman.

Proving that Pawlenty "might be" a good to fair "follower", someday, but never a "leader".

It is always thus with moderates.

44 posted on 10/24/2009 5:58:42 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Marylander

The two parties will be the ‘Democratic People’s party’ (AKA, the Marxist party) and the other the ‘Constitutional Republic party’.

One party striving for complete government control of your life and a one world government.

The other a party for and by individuals who believe in limited government and a return to the principles of the Constitution. Their motto being ‘He who governs least governs best’ and ‘Live Free or Die’.


45 posted on 10/24/2009 5:58:52 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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Note that of all potential candidates being mentioned for 2012 only one, Sarah Palin, has made the right and good choice.
Not so with Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, DeMint, or even Hunter.
46 posted on 10/24/2009 6:03:43 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla

If Santorum made the same stand in PA against the Specter nomination, Pat Toomey would be a Senator from PA and perhaps Santorum would as well.


47 posted on 10/24/2009 6:30:56 AM PDT by etradervic (Democrat uber deficit spending proves that the swine flu originated in DC)
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To: Man50D; jla; Bloody Sam Roberts; EternalVigilance; vaudine; freeangel; Right Wing Assault; ...
I missed Forbes. And now Santorum. This is getting interesting.

The Wizard wrote:
Did you notice the order of the list.....Madame President, then the others.... seems like a trend is developing
I noticed that. But the reality is that several of the others endorsed Hoffman before Palin. Some were on with Hoffman a week or more before Palin.
allmendream wrote:
Where Sarah Palin leads, the others will follow.
Many have “followed’ in advance of Palin. Fred Thompson, Dick Armey, Michelle Bachmann all endorsed Hoffman before Palin did.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Sarah made the endorsement. But she wasn’t the trailblazer here.

Though her facebook post endorsing Hoffman went beyond just endorsing Hoffman. She is calling for Conservatives to take back the Republican party and make it actually stand for conservative principles. She is trying to take a leadership role on that front.

Has everyone seen this: “The Most Important Number in Politics Today.” Still, the Democrat is way ahead of everyone in fund raising in this important race in upstate New York.

Doug Hoffman is the Conservative alternative in this race (or Hoffman by PayPal).

Markos Moulitsas, founder of The Daily Kos has endorsed Scozzafava. Dede Scozzafava has also been endorsed by NYSUT, the largest labor union in New York, and an affiliate of the National Education Association.

Scozzafava also holds these positions:

Scozzafava has also run in past elections on the Working Families Party (a progressive party associated with ACORN) line on the ballot.

This lady isn’t a RINO, she is a big “R” libeRal democRat. Mark Steyn has coined the term DIABLO for her and others like her. Democrat In All But Label Only.

There are also at least 17 unprincipled DIABLO enablers in the house who have donated funds or otherwise supported to this LibeRal democRat's DIABLO’s campaign. They include Boehner, Cantor, Sessions, Hensarling, Brown-Waite and McCotter. I don’t have a full list, but I will be looking for it. These unprincipled enablers should be targeted for elimination in the primaries next year.

Also, perhaps those of us who donated to the RNC or RCCC should ask for our money back so we can support the conservative candidates of our choice.

More threads ...
From the desk of
cc2k:
I support Doug Hoffman for Congress (PayPal).

Please, spread the word about this important election on November 3, 2009 in New York’s 23rd congressional district.

48 posted on 10/24/2009 6:40:08 AM PDT by cc2k (I have donated to Doug Hoffman, have you? [check my recent reply posts])
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To: Libloather
they point to her unofficial endorsement from the leading liberal blog Daily Kos.

That should be the kiss of death for her, among conservatives.

49 posted on 10/24/2009 6:41:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: cc2k

http://republicanwhip.house.gov/newsroom/2009/04/national-council-for-a-new-america-formed.html

Our National Panel of Experts:

Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney

(snip)

Sincerely,

John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt

Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Ensign, John Cornyn, John Thune, Kay Bailey Hutchison

//

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/gingrich-to-be-a-public-face-of-cantors-effort-to-remake-gop/

Gingrich Joins Cantor’s Effort To Remake GOP


50 posted on 10/24/2009 6:47:03 AM PDT by maggief
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