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In 1942, it came down to one Marine
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 25 oct 09 | Vin Suprynowicz

Posted on 10/25/2009 4:49:12 AM PDT by rellimpank

It's hard to envision -- or, for the dwindling few, to remember -- what the world looked like on Oct. 26, 1942, when a few thousand U.S. Marines stood essentially stranded on the God-forsaken jungle island of Guadalcanal, placed like a speed bump at the end of the long blue-water slot between New Guinea and the Bismarck Archipelago, the most likely route for the Japanese Navy to take if they hoped to reach Australia.

On Guadalcanal, the Marines struggled to complete an airfield. Japanese Adm. Isoroku Yamamoto knew what that meant. No effort would be spared to dislodge these upstart Yanks. Before long, relentless Japanese counterattacks had driven supporting U.S. Navy vessels from inshore waters. The Marines were on their own.

As Platoon Sgt. Mitchell Paige and his 33 riflemen set about carefully placing their four water-cooled .30-caliber Brownings, manning their section of the thin khaki line that was expected to defend Henderson Field against the assault everyone expected on the night of Oct. 25, 1942, it's unlikely anyone thought they were about to provide the definitive answer to what had previously been a mainly theoretical question: How many able-bodied U.S. Marines does it take to hold a hill against a desperate attacking force of 2,000?

Nor did the commanders of the mighty Japanese Army, who had swept all before them for decades -- OK, they decided not to push Marshall Zhukov any further in Manchuria -- expect their advance to be halted on some God-forsaken jungle ridge manned by one thin line of Yanks in khaki in October 1942

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guadalcanal; japan; marines; mitchellpaige; moh; suprynowicz; usmc; vin; vinsuprynowicz; worldwar2; worldwareleven; ww2; wwii
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To: Lundy_s Lane II
I am not sure which enemy I would rather face or which is more dangerous.

It's easier, I imagine, to cause blood to flow through a uniform than a suit and tie.

Now ... if we can condition ourselves to see Brook's Brothers suits and polished wing tips as an enemy uniform ......

21 posted on 10/25/2009 5:59:26 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Where are you today, John Moses Browning, when we need you, we send our troops out with over engineered, over priced toys, that can be guaranteed to fail at the worst possible moment. Heavy though they were, the M1917 Heavy(WC),the M1919 Light(AC). The .50 BMG and the M1917 B.A.R, did not have failure in their vocabulary.
barbra ann


22 posted on 10/25/2009 6:00:06 AM PDT by barb-tex (She is one of us)
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To: Leisler

Excellent observation and commentary ... thank you.


23 posted on 10/25/2009 6:02:50 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Vaquero
Corps
24 posted on 10/25/2009 6:03:24 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: barb-tex
Heavy though they were, the M1917 Heavy(WC),the M1919 Light(AC). The .50 BMG and the M1917 B.A.R, did not have failure in their vocabulary.

My brother owns a 1919 and I can tell you that they do fail.

I do know they are more reliable than an M60 out at the range.....but combat is not the range and there were not many reliability studies done during WWII.

25 posted on 10/25/2009 6:04:54 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: rellimpank

Those interested in the topic might want to check out Multi-Man Publishing’s upcoming Combat Sim on Guadalcanal.

Kawaguchi’s Gamble: Edson’s Ridge.

http://www.multimanpublishing.com/preorder/viewGame.php?id=59

They also have in their ‘Tactical Combat Series” Bloody Ridge which is a different scale of the same battle. Look it up.

No, I do not work for MMP. I just buy their products.


26 posted on 10/25/2009 6:05:22 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: rellimpank

My late father-in-law, Peter Martuselli, was a Marine on Guadalcanal. Pete could tell you the names of all the men that died during the unbelievable fighting, many of them his friends. It is hard to believe that a young man could live through the stress of war and still have the sweet spirit that Pete was known for all of his life.


27 posted on 10/25/2009 6:07:32 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: barb-tex

John Moses Browning still lives and he still fights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning_machine_gun
M2 Browning machine gun


28 posted on 10/25/2009 6:07:56 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

yeah Corps.....its early.

just had my first coffee....

if Dad were alive, he would wack me in the back of the head for that one....

...he went to meet his cousin about 3 years ago now.


29 posted on 10/25/2009 6:07:56 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Leisler

Well said,Thank you


30 posted on 10/25/2009 6:07:59 AM PDT by Rj Snows
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To: rellimpank

Blurry-eyed bump!


31 posted on 10/25/2009 6:15:44 AM PDT by WVKayaker (www.wherezobama.org / Obama's Excellent Adventure ...)
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To: knarf

It’s easier, I imagine, to cause blood to flow through a uniform than a suit and tie.

Now ... if we can condition ourselves to see Brook’s Brothers suits and polished wing tips as an enemy uniform ......

**************************

It is easier to fight an enemy that is easy to identify and it is clear they are out to kill you. You face a possibility of death no matter what.

If everyone wearing expensive suits were the enemy then we could find a way to defeat them.

We need to find the tactics and strategy for this new enemy: the enemy within.


32 posted on 10/25/2009 6:15:55 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Go back and watch it again, Robert. Upham wasn’t the only survivor. Ryan himself and Ryben survived.

And the German prisoner needed killing.


33 posted on 10/25/2009 6:16:52 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Too many guns, too much ammo, Santa Claus - all mythical.)
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To: knarf
but it seems we are now so well trained and (dare I say .. controlled ? ), that the heroism of this caliber can never happen again.

I know many serving in the military today and I do believe heroism is/will happening/happen again when the need is there. For the most part those that join the military are of a different mindset to begin with, especially those that have enlisted since 9/11. They are highly trained, but definately not robots that won't think for themselves if the need is there.

34 posted on 10/25/2009 6:34:26 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Vaquero

God bless them. My father-in-law was a paratroop during WWII in the 82nd airborne. He had 2 drops on his wings and stayed in Italy for the remainder of the European campaign. He never talked much about his dealings until one Christmas when we both got pretty much hammered.

He then opened up as we went through his foot locker of memorabilia and photos. War wasn’t a pleasure cruise.


35 posted on 10/25/2009 6:35:22 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: rellimpank

Great post! I love Vin’s articles.


36 posted on 10/25/2009 6:58:37 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: rellimpank

The world first noticed it at Bello Wood. Then there was Pearl harbor, Wake island, Bataan, Guadalcanal........
Our enemies scoff at us and consider us weak. All to their utter desolation. Unfortunately we need such heroes because our so called political leaders screw up. No screw-ups then no need for heroes. Think about it.


37 posted on 10/25/2009 7:00:59 AM PDT by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
There was Hamburger Hill, a underrated movie about the 101st in Vietnam.
Blackhawk down that showed how brave soldiers had to contend with politics and showed theirs restraint, even in the face of overwhelming odds.
We were Soldiers. I didnt really like this movie, but it showed how strong our men were in that war.
Every once in a while , Hollywood gets it right.
38 posted on 10/25/2009 7:01:42 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Soul of the South

The sonuvabitch once played basketball in a Marine Corps tee-shirt. He deserves the Navy Cross at the least!

Semper Fi,


39 posted on 10/25/2009 7:03:30 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: DownInFlames
My dad was too old (born 1906) to step forward in 1942. He had been a CNAC pilot in the 30s so the AAF qualified him as a pilot in the China-Burma-India Campaign. he made 25 flights over the Hump in C-46 cargo planes.
My uncle Max, with just an 8th grade education was a cook and baker with MacArthur's return to the Philippines. Max left as a Master Sgt with two Bronze Stars.
After Pearl, everybody did what they could do.
40 posted on 10/25/2009 7:06:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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