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Vanity* "Official" Freeper "Read the Bill" Thread
10/29/09 | Daniel Redfoot

Posted on 10/29/2009 7:55:46 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot

I searched and didn't find one so...

Freepers: We need to get this Bill posted and split up into parts to contribute to the vetting process.

It took considerable time to go through the first one and additional time is needed to get media attention focused on the findings.

The more people reading the better.

And Keyword searches can be a useful method for finding buried items.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; deathpanels; healthcarebill; pelosi
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Here is an attempt at posting the bill.

I do not post very often so if this fails, can someone please assist?

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent"

There are Good people on our side and they need our help here... Lets Roll!

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

1 posted on 10/29/2009 7:55:47 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: DanielRedfoot

Are you thinking that we should volunteer to read sections and report on them? That’s a good idea.


2 posted on 10/29/2009 7:59:55 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: DanielRedfoot

team sarah is doing this to the bill.
Interesting thing from the speed reader on Cavuto today, there is language in there to do with “vending machines” and nutritional values, something like that.


3 posted on 10/29/2009 8:00:12 PM PDT by libbylu ( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
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To: DanielRedfoot; HonestConservative

Can you advise if any other FReepers are reading the bill and what sections.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 8:02:16 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: DanielRedfoot

I’ll help as long as there aren’t a lot of “begats” in it.

parsy, who got lost once in the Old Testament


5 posted on 10/29/2009 8:08:33 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: DanielRedfoot

This is a great idea..! Like the SETI or protein folding project...!

Let’s pull together, each read a l’il section, and report!

AND WE’LL STOP IT..!!!!


6 posted on 10/29/2009 8:09:34 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: DanielRedfoot

It’s 2000 pages, so if we each did 10 pages, we’d need 200 folks.


7 posted on 10/29/2009 8:10:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: DanielRedfoot

You can download it here:

http://rules.house.gov/bills_details.aspx?NewsID=4483


8 posted on 10/29/2009 8:12:29 PM PDT by crescen7 (game on)
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To: mojo114

I cannot, I am just getting into it myself.
Once people get going and post findings, we can more clearly focus on the voids.


9 posted on 10/29/2009 8:12:34 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (What a fool believes, No wise man has the power to reason away)
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To: crescen7

Briliant!

Thank You


10 posted on 10/29/2009 8:13:20 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (What a fool believes, No wise man has the power to reason away)
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To: DanielRedfoot

Some FReepers are working on reading the Bill has we speak. That it why I pinged another FReeper to help out who else is doing it and what pages they have to read. Hopefully we will find out from her what is next to read.


11 posted on 10/29/2009 8:19:26 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: libbylu

Do you have a layout of what Team Sarah is reading? If so get back with infor. on this thread.


12 posted on 10/29/2009 8:23:13 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: DanielRedfoot

I’ve just been scanning it, it’s too late tonight to start doing all the cross referencing to other bills, but the first thing that pops out at me (somewhere in the 1400’s) is that they are handing out grant money like sauce packs at a Taco Bell drivethru. I think I might need to become a ‘medical researcher’.


13 posted on 10/29/2009 8:23:28 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: DanielRedfoot

Some Quickies

starting on p. 16
Upon passage of the bill, there will immediately be set up a High -Risk pool of people to give them the public option of health care coverage. on p. 18 line 14 - if you meet the requirements to be in this high risk pool which is described above...such as haven’t had health care coverage for the last 6 months....

Then you CANNOT be considered for coverage under an employment based health plan at all!!!

So if you actually get a job, you can’t get enrolled into their plan you are stuck with the governement plan!!

p.25 top of p.26 of the bill
If the $5 billion runs out that they have alloted then the Sec. of Health has the right to reduce benefits, increase premiums and establish waiting lists.

Also
p.297 the section heading is taxes on individuals without appropriate health care coverage.
right...
look on p. 299
2) Non-resident aliens..this subsection will not apply to them.

If they don’t have purchase appropriate health care coverage yet, they get to use it...they will NOT be taxed like the rest of us if we don’t comply!

It appears on P. 299 top p. 300 that we might be saved if we just say that we are religious thus not having to pay the tax


14 posted on 10/29/2009 8:26:01 PM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: parsifal

What’s an ‘alternative medical liability law’?


15 posted on 10/29/2009 8:29:17 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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16 posted on 10/29/2009 8:32:53 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: DanielRedfoot

You are commandeering a new lawyer force that has no law experience. This shall be quite a scene.


17 posted on 10/29/2009 8:34:00 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: DanielRedfoot
I believe I have found the priceless ironic gem of the legislation:

(d) LACK OF REGULATIONS. - The lack of promulgated regulations shall not limit the effect of this Act.

...

(b) LACK OF PLAN. - The lack of (or failure to submit) such a plan shall not limit the effect, or prevent the implimentation, of this Act.

Page 1941, Indian Health Care Improvement Act Ammendments of 2009.

18 posted on 10/29/2009 8:45:34 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: DanielRedfoot

Be sure to solicit help from other places also.


19 posted on 10/29/2009 8:48:09 PM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary" is evil. See what God thinks of "rising oceans" in Jeremiah 5:22)
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To: DanielRedfoot

2) You should also post another thread every day, which points back to all previous threads.
3) Make a ping list.
4) Invest time in gathering people, THEN start
5) Better yet, get these guys ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287344/posts


20 posted on 10/29/2009 8:50:47 PM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary" is evil. See what God thinks of "rising oceans" in Jeremiah 5:22)
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