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The Doug Hoffman Effect Strikes in Two Key Races for GOP
The Hill ^ | 10/30/09 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 10/30/2009 6:42:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

With Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman running neck and neck with the Democrat in Tuesday’s special election in New York, some other disaffected Republicans are seeing the third-party route as more viable.

And it could hurt the Republicans in those races.

In Virginia’s 5th district, state Sen. Robert Hurt’s entry into the GOP primary has spurred little-known candidate Bradley Rees to switch to the Virginia Conservative Party. And in Ohio, another GOP primary contender said this week that he’ll run as a Constitution Party candidate.

Both will go at the GOP nominees from their right flanks and try to expose some unhappiness in conservative ranks. They might not be as well-funded as Hoffman or be filling quite as big a vacuum as the one left by Republican Dede Scozzafava’s left-leaning politcs, but they could steal valuable votes.

Rees isn’t afraid of playing spoiler to the establishment-favorite Hurt. He even suggested his third-party candidacy could help freshman Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.) stay in Congress.

“It may amount to only drawing enough votes from the Republican candidate to ensure Tom Perriello a second term,” Rees told the Lynchburg News and Advance.

“If so, so be it. Maybe then the party will understand that we are trying to save the GOP from its worst enemy — not the Democrats, but themselves.”

A similar situation occurred in Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy’s (D-Ohio) district last year, when Republican Steve Stivers lost enough of the vote to conservative third-party candidates to allow Kilroy to win.

And now Stivers, who supports abortion rights, could again be ceding support to his right, in the form of Ron Paul supporter David Ryon. Ryon switched from the GOP to the Constitution Party this week.

It should be noted that Kilroy and Perriello each won by less than 1 percent in 2008, making them among the closest races in the country. In fact, both races were drawn out past Election Day because they were so close.

Those are the races where third-party candidates can make a difference.

It should be noted that neither Ryon nor Rees appears to have cited Hoffman in his announcement, so any connection to the New York race appears to be indirect. But even if they were unaware, the underlying factors that led to their decisions — and Hoffman's — could be troubling for the GOP.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; conservative; constitutionparty; davidryon; gopprimary; hoffman; notthirdparty; ny23; perriello; republican; rinoalert; rinoparty; ryon; thirdparty; ustp; va2010
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1 posted on 10/30/2009 6:42:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
The Doug Hoffman Effect Strikes in Two Key Races for GOP

The Tea Party Effect Strikes in Two Key Races for GOP

There. Fixed it.

2 posted on 10/30/2009 6:43:37 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: nickcarraway

The GOP better get its ASS in gear or we’ll be drowning in liberal BS forever.


3 posted on 10/30/2009 6:44:28 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: nickcarraway

out out damned rino!


4 posted on 10/30/2009 6:45:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: All
HEY GOP...


5 posted on 10/30/2009 6:46:54 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: nickcarraway

The fact that RINO’s are being selected by party bosses in these races make them legitimate targets on that alone.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 6:47:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

RINO Hunting Season is Now OPEN!!!


7 posted on 10/30/2009 6:47:48 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: nickcarraway

What is with these idiots? If I read this correctly, Steve Stivers was the Republican candidate, got beat out, and now is running again, and again is threatened with a third party conservative.

Steve Stivers is pro-abort, according to this article.

Will they never learn? If he loses again, will they run him a third time?


8 posted on 10/30/2009 6:49:49 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: airborne; wagglebee; TAdams8591; Fiddlstix; Ol' Sparky; Zechariah_8_13; BnBlFlag; notaliberal; ...

Time to let the liberals in the GOP know the fight is on! Get out of the way and stand down or else!

The RINO Party Alert.

Just say no to liberals, turncoats, and traitors!

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9 posted on 10/30/2009 6:50:39 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

This is AWESOME...dont kill the Party...kill the RINO


10 posted on 10/30/2009 6:51:11 PM PDT by Texas4ever (God is in control!)
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To: GeronL

AMEN! NO BAG LIMIT!


11 posted on 10/30/2009 6:51:42 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: nickcarraway

However....the CP of NY is not a third party in the same sense as the Consti Party. The CP has the best plan: they third party when necessary, but they work with and for Republicans when they can. The Const Party has no affinity for any cooperation. They are madder at GOP’ers than the Dems.

I don’t know about the Virginia Const party, but would be curious to see which it is more like.


12 posted on 10/30/2009 6:53:01 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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I’m in Ohio and have never heard of David Ryon. I’ll have to check him out because frankly, I don’t trust that just because someone says they are “conservative” or joins a Conservative or Constitution Party that they are, in fact, conservative....especially when it comes to national security/illegal immigration....Far too many so-called “conservatives” have the same position on amnesty as McCain/Bush.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 6:53:52 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Sarah Palin - Supports a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens. "path to citizenship" IS AMNESTY)
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To: Texas Eagle

I’ll up one and raise you two, WE THE PEOPLE strike in two key races for GOP. We’re sick and tired, we have the God given individual rights we allow them the priviledges to represent WE THE PEOPLE. WE ARE THIER BOSSES not the other way around, we will straight thier a##es out and then we will remove the a##es in Washington, PERIOD! We are the new Revolution!


14 posted on 10/30/2009 6:54:21 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: nickcarraway

You know, I don’t care anymore if the R party wins or loses. It’s time we started supporting Conservative candidates who are real people that stand for something and sending the elites like Gingrich, Romney, Steele, et al a message.


15 posted on 10/30/2009 6:56:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: ronnie raygun
We are the new Revolution!


"Amen, bro!"

16 posted on 10/30/2009 6:56:19 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: nickcarraway
>> It should be noted that neither Ryon nor Rees appears to have cited Hoffman in his announcement, so any connection to the New York race appears to be indirect <<

Appears? In other words this article is basically nothing more than airy speculation, without empircal foundation.

The editors of "The Hill" must have been on vacation when this article was submitted.

17 posted on 10/30/2009 6:57:39 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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There was no primary before the NY-23 race, Scozzafava was selected by the local party officials. If Hoffman had defeated Scozzafava (or vice versa) in a primary, there would have been no need for a third party candidacy. We would already know which candidate the voters preferred.

That's why Hoffman's impending victory should not give much boost to third party candidates in general.

18 posted on 10/30/2009 7:04:33 PM PDT by TChad
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To: bigbob

>> I don’t care anymore if the R party wins or loses <<

So you don’t care if 0bambi and the Dhims have free rein to ruin the world’s greatest medical system, to create deficits so big as to drive the dollar down to parity with the Bolivian peso, and to engineer a cowardly surrender in the war against Islamic fascism?

No thanks, my FRiend, no thanks.


19 posted on 10/30/2009 7:04:44 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: nickcarraway

The OP(Formerly the GOP) is falling apart at the seams.


20 posted on 10/30/2009 7:07:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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