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Palin, Thompson show leadership while Romney and Huckabee exude cowardice
The Examiner ^ | 11/1/2008 | Kevin Hall

Posted on 10/31/2009 10:12:14 PM PDT by bigred08

Sarah Palin and Fred Thompson had the guts to do what Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and the entire Republican Party would not do. One month ago, Thompson became the first prominent national Republican to endorse Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman in the New York District 23 Congressional race. Palin made an even bigger impact by endorsing Hoffman a week and a half ago. In doing so, Palin lived up to her penchant for going against the mainstream and taking on powerbrokers inside her own party.

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KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; cowardromney; doughoffman; fredthompson; hidingromney; hoffman; huckster; mikehuckabee; ny2009; ny23; romneyafraid; romneycries; romneyfears; romneyunderrock; romneyweeps; sarahpalin; scozzafava
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Huckabee and Romney refuse to take a stand for conservative principles
1 posted on 10/31/2009 10:12:15 PM PDT by bigred08
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To: bigred08

Hmmm Palin/Thompson 2012 That’s a ticket I could believe in.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 10:14:28 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

A beauty and the beast remake.


3 posted on 10/31/2009 10:16:08 PM PDT by refreshed
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To: refreshed
The iron fist in a velvet glove and then just the plain old iron fist with a courtly offer of a shot of Southern Comfort after it pummels you!
4 posted on 10/31/2009 10:18:38 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: bigred08
Duly noted..and don't forget Newt.

And actually, Pawlenty endorsed. Do you think he has his finger to the wind?

Hoffman has some darn good backers...Thompson, Sarah, Santoram.

I pray he wins..what a “kick in the pants” boost it would be

5 posted on 10/31/2009 10:19:02 PM PDT by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: bigred08

The GOP will try (again) to stick Romney in the faces of it’s members as the GOP rep for the presidency. Only RINOS could stand that d-bag.


6 posted on 10/31/2009 10:19:34 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: bigred08

I gotta say I love listening to Fred Thompson’s radio show. He’s funny, humble, down-to-earth, and has some good insights on how Congress really works. I’d much rather listen to Fred than Rush, Sean or any of the other talkers.


7 posted on 10/31/2009 10:21:32 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants. -- William Penn)
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To: bigred08

Huck, Newt, Romney, all gutless establishment Republicans.
Newt and Romney especially don’t know what a conservative is.
Turncoats. They follow the money. That’s where their loyalties are.


8 posted on 10/31/2009 10:22:08 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: Kartographer

Palin/Thompson -
Now that’s TWO leaders not in name only! By standing up for what they believe in - conservative values - they led the pack!


9 posted on 10/31/2009 10:22:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Go Sarah, Go Doug)
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To: Kartographer

the irony is that for all the talk they did about being a team of mavericks and all of that, from what I know of Palin, McCain seems like the last type of Republican she’d support.

She didn’t endorse him in the primaries, from what I’ve found never really said anything positive about him until well after he had secured the nomination, let alone for the time she was Governor before that.

Nor did he really say anything positive about her. It’s pretty obvious she was picked because they thought having a woman VP would be the only thing that could flip the race in such an overwhelmingly dem year and none of the other women were seen as being conservative enough to get the support of the party at large. I doubt anyone on the McCain staff had any clue of the impact she’d have.

But McCain was really the only one who could have possibly picked her because of his unquestionable natl security and foreign policy credentials and his beltway expreience. Romney or Huckabee never could have picked her because they would have needed a guy like Biden or Cheney to shore up their foreign policy and security credentials like Obama and Bush did.

Funny how things work out sometimes


10 posted on 10/31/2009 10:26:43 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Kartographer

I wonder if there’s any chance Fred would run again. And maybe put some more effort into it unlike his 2008 bid. Lol. Seriously though, I think people may want an old, “grandpa”-ish guy after the effeminate man-child that is Obama.


11 posted on 10/31/2009 10:29:26 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: max americana

I’ll admit I was a Giuliani guy last go around simply because I thought he was the one guy who could be counted on to take on the terorrists and Iran and I was confident he’d make the right Court appts regardless of his own views/ But I was open to all the other candidates. Nevertheless from the first time I saw Romney there was something fake and phony about him. I couldn’t put my finger on it but it just oozed through my tv. It wasn’t there with anyone else. I never though Huckabee was phony. Or McCain or Thompson, or even Paul.

But from the minute I saw Mitt, I just couldn’t shake that feeling.


12 posted on 10/31/2009 10:29:59 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: bigred08
Rino Slayer
13 posted on 10/31/2009 10:34:22 PM PDT by Tawiskaro
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To: bigred08
Huckabee and Romney might be the Barney Fifes of the republican party.. and Newt the Otis.. McLain is the Goober and Sara Palin seems to be the Andy...

Aunt Bee?... Well that would be Rudy Giuliani..

14 posted on 10/31/2009 10:35:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Kartographer; shibumi
That's just what I was thinking earlier today, Kart.


15 posted on 10/31/2009 10:35:44 PM PDT by Semper Mark (May God help us.)
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To: jeltz25
I am not convinced that McCain picked her of his own free will. I don't think he is that clever. That could have caused some of the friction between them and contributed to the negative coverage of Palin.

I truly think that McCain wanted to run Lieberman as his VP.

That would have been a total annihilation during the election..instead of the small one we saw.

16 posted on 10/31/2009 10:38:05 PM PDT by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: berdie

The article mentions Pawlenty’s endorsement, but it came after Palin’s. Nice to see he had more guts than Romney & Huckabee, tho.


17 posted on 10/31/2009 10:39:12 PM PDT by bigred08
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To: bigred08
I totally agree. But it makes me wonder if Pawlenty is trying to fly on the coattails. Just a curiosity.
18 posted on 10/31/2009 10:42:30 PM PDT by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: Markos33; SMCC1

Fred would give the right balance of experince to Palin and he would be great at handling the ‘dirty’ work that VP’s often do for the President. He would work well with congress and keeping the Republicans there in line as well. And he be a reassuring back-up to Palin as SMCC1 put it:
“I think people may want an old, “grandpa”-ish guy after the effeminate man-child that is Obama.” No they might not want him to lead, but they want him there to ‘grab the wheel’ when SHTF.


19 posted on 10/31/2009 10:43:56 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: bigred08

Romney has been working Virginia. I’m not sure who has appeared in NY so maybe you all can fill me in who is appearing where and for whom.


20 posted on 10/31/2009 10:44:39 PM PDT by byteback
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To: byteback

Rommney is working the sure thing so he can claim he helped bring home the victory, instead of working a real race. In other words Rommney is be the selfserving jerk he has always been. Rommney and Obama are cut from the same cloth IMHO.


21 posted on 10/31/2009 10:48:45 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: o_zarkman44

Mittens is best kept in behind the curtain (except in UT and maybe NV) raising money for the GOP, which he does seem to have a knack for.


22 posted on 10/31/2009 10:52:04 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: berdie

Oh, he clearly wanted Lieberman. Multiple accounts made that clear. But he realized it wouldn’t work. He couldn’t stand Romney so he was out. It was basically down to Pawlenty as the safe, make no waves choice and Palin as the go for broke shake things up choice.

His pollsters all told him that if he picked Pawlenty, even if everything broke their way and everything went right for them and everything went wrong for Obama, it’d be extremely tough to top 48% or so. Palin was the only one who gave him a chance to win due to potential swings among white women mainly, but also increased numbers among conservatives.

Which is exactly what happened(20 pt swing among white women) and why he was ahead until the middle of Spetember when Lehman, AIG and the rest of the economy totally collapsed and the market crashd by 30% in a matter of weeks.


23 posted on 10/31/2009 10:53:46 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: bigred08

Remember NY-23!

Huckabee, Romney and Newt all outed themselves as fake or cowardly conservatives. They are all disqualified.

24 posted on 10/31/2009 10:56:07 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Kartographer; shibumi
Right now, at this moment, I can think of no better combination.

With Palin-Thompson, we'll sweep the North, and the South, with two Conservatives on the same ticket. IMO

25 posted on 10/31/2009 10:58:13 PM PDT by Semper Mark (May God help us.)
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To: Markos33

I’d rather Bachman lest Thompson fall asleep as it seemed in the last campaign.


26 posted on 10/31/2009 11:03:03 PM PDT by onedoug (SARAH!)
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To: Markos33

This could be the beginning of a beautiful relationship.


27 posted on 10/31/2009 11:07:33 PM PDT by rae4palin
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To: SMCC1

I think Reagan was 68 when he took office.

If Fred were elected he’d be 69 when he takes office in 2012.

He could do it, but he’d have to show a lot more enthusiasm early than the last time.


28 posted on 10/31/2009 11:08:08 PM PDT by zipper
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To: jeltz25

I wish I had your faith in McCain’s savvy.

McCain mishandled the September crash..in a huge way, imho.

But I don’t see any reason to fight a battle that happened last year.

For whatever reason...he brought Palin front and center.

Do I think she can win a presidential election? I don’t know. It worries me. Who else do we have waiting in the wings?

But she can darn sure bring out support. That may be her role in this drama.


29 posted on 10/31/2009 11:09:24 PM PDT by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: onedoug

Two women on the same ticket would nevre work. I for one would never wish to debate Fred Thompson.


30 posted on 10/31/2009 11:11:22 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: onedoug
I love Bachman, and I don't mean to sound chauvinistic, but I just don't think that two females, conservative or not, could pull it off.

We'll see. After Obama, if there's anything left, and the illegal voters return home because they're starving...the two of us could probably get elected.

31 posted on 10/31/2009 11:18:03 PM PDT by Semper Mark (May God help us.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“Remember NY-23!

Huckabee, Romney and Newt all outed themselves as fake or cowardly conservatives. They are all disqualified. “

Absolutely! This race was very instructive. We were able to flush out 3 pretenders-all of whom should be dispelled quickly in the 2012 primaries.


32 posted on 10/31/2009 11:19:35 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: bigred08

Bump for later Sunday reading.


33 posted on 10/31/2009 11:20:26 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: bigred08

Fred Thompson bragged that McCain/Feingold should be called, McCain/Feingold/Thompson. He chaired McCain’s 2000 campaign. Ann Coulter did a column about how McFred was barely conservative enough to get by in his safe TN seat. Promote him at your peril.


34 posted on 10/31/2009 11:24:50 PM PDT by Nephi ( Bush legacy: "I had to sacrifice free market principles to save the free market.")
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To: Markos33
With Palin-Thompson, we'll sweep the North....

I love your enthusiasm, but I'm not so sure about "sweeping" the North. Which states in the North do you think Palin-Thompson would sweep?

35 posted on 10/31/2009 11:39:34 PM PDT by kittykat77
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To: Kartographer
"Two women on the same ticket would nevre work. I for one would never wish to debate Fred Thompson."

Can you imagine Bachman as SOS?
I can...

36 posted on 10/31/2009 11:43:24 PM PDT by Semper Mark (May God help us.)
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To: Kartographer

Who is on the ground where was my question. Fred did Ad spots for Hoffman so that counts too. Anyone can sit at home and twitter an endorsement.


37 posted on 10/31/2009 11:49:48 PM PDT by byteback
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To: bigred08

BTTT


38 posted on 10/31/2009 11:52:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: kittykat77
...but I'm not so sure about "sweeping" the North.

You're right, that probably was a bit of an exuberant prognostication. I think that they would take enough enough of the Northern states to win though.
California would be the make or break state, IMO.

39 posted on 10/31/2009 11:57:56 PM PDT by Semper Mark (May God help us.)
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To: berdie; bigred08

To be fair, it is not like she was first. She waited until it was safe to do so. If she was really gutsy, she would have stated her support one week prior and not wait for that first guy who did (name escapes me).


40 posted on 11/01/2009 1:56:19 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: bigred08

Huckabee made it clear that he agreed with Hoffman and publicly refused to endorse the RINO candidate. But he’d already been contracted through his speakers’ agency to do a paid gig hosting a local Conservative Party awards dinner. If he’d endorsed their candidate after that, Hoffman’s opponents would have portrayed Hoffman as buying his endorsement, not only smearing Huckabee but causing an unnecessary distraction for the Hoffman campaign. This had happened once before, so he knew it would happen again. He preferred that the partisan and the uninformed attack him rather than Hoffman. But don’t bother doing any research before attacking people’s motives and character.


41 posted on 11/01/2009 2:35:52 AM PST by HHFi
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To: berdie
I am not convinced that McCain picked her of his own free will. I don't think he is that clever.

McCain only picked Palin because he couldn't get enough conservative votes to pull himself above 30% in the polls, and most of those were votes against Obama.

Sarah Palin brought in the votes, but McCain dragged the ticket back down into losing territory.

42 posted on 11/01/2009 2:42:39 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Kartographer

Fred would be to Palin what Cheney was to Bush.....that sage advisor and tough as nails conservative.


43 posted on 11/01/2009 2:44:34 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: meadsjn
"I am not convinced that McCain picked her of his own free will. I don't think he is that clever."

God works in mysterious ways. I think McCain's purpose was to be the vehicle to introduce Sarah on the national stage.

44 posted on 11/01/2009 2:54:46 AM PST by liberateUS
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To: SMCC1

You’re so right about Fred, his heart was’nt in it last time. No fire in the belly, all the right words but no umpf.


45 posted on 11/01/2009 3:57:46 AM PST by saturn1964
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To: Nephi
This just goes to show, we're expecting to find perfect people that are perfect all the time. These are unrealistic expectations.

Besides even the purists here on FR do not agree on what constitutes perfection.

46 posted on 11/01/2009 4:07:55 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: bigred08
Romney is a coward.
No child or woman is immune from Team Romney.

Team Romney is continuing backstabbing Gov. Palin even NOW!!!!

“And The Most Irresponsible Journalist Award Goes to The Politico’s Jonathan Martin!
So tell me, how do you write a “news” story about an organization paying for a speaker when you don’t even know if the organization is paying for the speaker?
Ask “journalist” Jonathan Martin. He knows all about it.
You see, Jonny wrote a piss poor story the other day about how the Iowa Family Policy Center will be paying a large speaker fee if Sarah Palin comes to Iowa to keynote the IFPC’s fall funderaiser.
The only problem is that Jonny has no sources confirming that any exorbitant fee is being charged or paid.
Jonny also got some inside info from David Kochel, who was a top aide to former (and future) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.
Hey Dave, didn’t I just read a story about how Mitt Romney tried to buy off the Iowa Christian Alliance?
I heard you helped facilitate that little scheme. And somehow you are shocked at the thought of a well-known political figure (who very likely isn’t running for president) getting paid a speaker’s fee for (gasp) a public speaking appearance? ..
and then we’ve got Tim Albrecht quoted. He was the Iowa spokesman for Romney’s 2008 caucus campaign.”
And it always seemed like, whenever the Romney people had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonny was their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.


SSDD

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++8 to 10 pts. in some polls, days prior to the election.
So rather than helping the GOP, poor loser “I am Myth” Romney and
TeamROMNEY decided …… to attack Gov. Palin (and her defenseless children) to throw Election2008.

"Frum was indeed a critic of Palin, calling her nomination a "huge mistake" during an October 13 (2008, weeks before the election) Early Show appearance."


David Frum: "Two of our most plausible candidates for president in 2012 are leading Mormons: Mitt Romney and Utah governor Jon Huntsman."


David Frum: "I have a lot of regard for Mitt Romney as a man and politician… I will support him without qualm."


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


Erick Erickson, who organized Operation Leper, said:
"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

47 posted on 11/01/2009 4:31:50 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I gotta say I love listening to Fred Thompson’s radio show.

Does Fred have a radio show now? Thompson would be a great spokesperson for the Rep. Party, especially in the south, midwest, flyover country. His down-to-earth analysis on politics is classic. I'd like to see the Rep. party use him more in commercials and on political round tables/debates. He has a gift as a conservative communicator.
48 posted on 11/01/2009 4:40:05 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Nephi

Fred barely get by in Tenneesse? Now that’s a load of horse hockey if I ever heard any and since moving to New Mexico the ‘Dims’ out here are experts on horse hockey!


49 posted on 11/01/2009 4:51:14 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: bigred08

Note to Mr. Hall:

DUH!

The Revolution has begun!


50 posted on 11/01/2009 6:03:51 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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