Posted on 11/02/2009 4:39:55 AM PST by GrandRussia
Call me crazy, but just in case Ogabe tries to shut down the Internet, how can we communicate? A friend suggested Freenet, but that still requires ISP's.
Someone else mentioned that the Eagle Forum etc. used to use faxes and phone trees back in the 80's.
Does anyone have any thoughts on where to put a phone number so I can get a call when if the unthinkable happens?
I have a question for the techies. How would the government go about “shutting down” the internet? Would they work through the ISP’s or the backbone providers?
It’s up to the people not to let it happen!
Lock it down via the backbone routers. Friend of mine used to work at Verizon’s Dallas NOC and he had a co-worker that ‘accidentally’ filtered out all traffic intended for AOL for several hours one day, for example.
Start a group or get involved in one personally. Most groups won’t give out numbers unless they have met you face to face.
There are various ways of setting up some go by giving you for example only 2 numbers and you don’t know the person that calls you only the 2 you are supposed to call, overlapping so word spreads but in a way it’s more difficult to track back & stop.
Part of the problem is that if a phone tree gets captured by an opponent, it points out just how to wrap up the entire organization unless it is memorized and never written down or stored *anywhere*.
So, the US government can “lock down” the internet domestically. How does that affect service outside the US? Like Canada and Europe? I know it would slow down. Is that all that would happen?
Depending on who or what they get access to, pretty much they can lock out all international traffic from the US, or at the very least segment the network to ‘contain’ information.
Internet service for the rest of the world might go down for a while until routers were updated to route around the US. Essentially, other than speed issues and not being able to access the US, the rest of the worldnet would be unaffected.
P2P requires an ISP, too.
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A fall-back alternative would be to revert to the old BBS (bulletin board systems) that pre-dated the Internet.
BBS systems could be set up on a local computer and accessed via telephone modems.
For their time, they were a pretty good method. Of course, there were long-distance charges if out-of-phone-exchange numbers were accessed.
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The Internet has become so expansive that it would be difficult for government to ‘shut it down’. Nearly every business depends on it.
If a catastrophic event occurred that would shut down the Internet, it would probably also shut down national governments.
If they go to lockdown mode there will be no phone, no cell phones, no internet. Or they will all be tapped.
Communication at that time will have to be person to person.
Saddle up a modern day Pony Express.
Will the "National Emergency" lead to the suspension of using money, admittedly one of the most germ-ridden items we all handle daily?
"Your money is no good here citizen. Why are you trying to spread the deadly flu virus? You must be a terrorist?"
Also, a phone tree is kind of useless. If the Internet gets locked down, it’s going to be kind of obvious.
Best to have a local ‘cell’ of people to rely on, and I’m not talking about the so-called “militias” running around out there. I’m talking about trusted friends who you can get together without having to use much if any communications. You basically want to have your own platoon-sized group with as much support as you can muster.
Most people would be unaffected as they would use “safe” plastic.
one if by land ... two if by sea
Get a HAM radio.
Unless you’re doing some *serious* encryption, that won’t help much - as many of the pirate software BBS style systems found out back in the 90s.
And, of course, it’s stupidly easy to decipher POTS modem transmissions.
Pretty amazing that it’s come to this, isn’t it?
Relax and carefully remove the tinfoil from your head. Hussein isn’t going to ‘shut down’ the Internet. Even he’s smart enough to know what kind of reaction that would bring.
What we need to stay focused on is bringing this Obamination down, and that means neutering him in the 2010 elections, and dispatching him and his ilk from the halls of power in 2012. That’s the best way of dealing with him.
I agree with that, but that doesn’t mean that our opponents *aren’t* crazy enough to blow a fuse if they start losing.
What’s the aphorism? Pray for the best, prepare for the worst?
You’re crazy.
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