Skip to comments.(video) Glenn Beck: Palin may be 3rd party candidate in 2012
Posted on 11/03/2009 9:25:23 AM PST by Mozilla
This bombshell from Glenn Beck is about three minutes into the segment on Thursday. Beck said leaving the governors mansion in Alaska was a smart move.
Beck: Smart move. And I think shes also positioning herself for a third party. By the time this election runs around for the president, Im sorry, but unless the Republicans and the Democrats wake up, a third party will win.
We shall see how that works out. Many people are angry at Republicans right now. The message sent to Dede Scozzafava is being noticed in Washington. Believe me. But 3 years is a long time in politics. We shall see.
It is time to begin thinking more about the person being considered for public office than for the party.
Beck on Palin
Also of note:
Why are leftist women jealous of Palin
I love Sarah, but hope like HELL she doesn’t run UNLESS we win back Congress....as a 3rd Party Candidate I mean...
Just speculation. Sara won in Alaska going against the establishment but staying a Republican. I think she has the same plan right now unless something drastic happens.
Is it official? Does it have any politicians in it that are holding office after being elected from within this "third party?
I don't know of it.
Huge mistake if she does. No 3rd party candidate in the history of the republic has ever won. Good chance that Obama would get a second term too.
Beck is presuming we have a two party system. This is ignores the fact the OP(formerly the GOP) has moved incrementally towards socialism with its big tent mentality in order to expand the voter base. The result are choices between socialist Obama against socialist light McCain and socialist Owens against socialist Scozzofava. This illustrates the two parties have become one big socialist Republicrat party. A party based on strong Conservative principles will be the second party.
Yes, why should a strong conservative have to leave the Republican party and become a 3rd party - RNC needs to wake up and smell the coffee. We’re SICK and TIRED of candidates like the liberal woman who dropped out in NY-23...We start now, today, to take back the Republican party, NOT give up and start a new one - that’s just giving the election to DEMOCRATS!
Maybe the Lieberman Party? Heh, heh, heh ;-)
I’m really not interested in a third party right now. I don’t think that they could get the structure in place in time. And don’t call it the Tea Party Party.
BAD move-it would just mean four more years of Zero. Better to clean all the RINO’s out in 2010 and replace them with Reagan-style conservatives-Palin can then run as a real Republican!
Something will happen.
We the People.
You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of
the Eternal God, I will rout you out”
We the people
have had enough.
We Surround Them.
WE will flip the house.
Sarah, GO THIRD PARTY, WE’RE WITH YOU, WE KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, THE REPUBLICANS ARE DEM-LITE, THEY ARE COWARDS, TAKING US TO THE SAME PLACE, IT’S TIME FOR REVOLUTION IN THE FORM OF A 3RD PARTY, AND YES, I’M YELLING ...
I like Sarah Palin, but I’d rather have her initiate a ‘Come to Jesus’ moment with the Republican Party than run as a third party.
AMEN to that, Tanniker Smith.
NO THIRD PARTY MOVEMENT!!
....ever since Teddy Rooseveldt 3rd parties lose and make others lose....Ross Perot gave us Clinton.
The GOP base is conservative, and at the national level, it has a good number of conservatives. What needs to happen is for a RINO hunt to happen, the way Dede was outed as a Dem. The best way to do that is in primaries where the conservative wins, and then wins the election. That will bring waivering conservatives, the Mike Pence types, in line. Get rid of 20 Rinos in Congress next election, nominate a conservative in 2012, and take back the party. Don't equate it with the Dems, prevent it from becoming like the Dems.
What Beck needs to analyze is the impact of a winner take all system in national races on the process of elections. That system guarantees a 2 party race. It is that simple. We need to do our work to make sure that one of the parties is conservative, not remake American politics. If we try the latter, we will ensure the election of marxists.
It’s time we stop eating the tapioca dished out by the power behind both parties and strike up a conservative band with many tubas and trombones. I’ll march in that parade if Sarah Palin is the drum majorette any day.
We’ve got to TAKE BACK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, not circumvent it. It’s ours. Let the DemLites creat their own party. Palin needs to run as a Republican or not at all.
If Sarah runs as a third party, I withdraw ALL support from her and will never send her another dime!
Not entirely true...
The Republican Party began life as a 3rd Party, alongside the Democrat Party and the disintegrating Whig Party.
It could be argued that the modern day Republican Party is falling apart just like the Whigs did in the 1850s, with the possible emergence of a true Conservative Party arising out of its ashes. Hopefully.
Palin never suggested something like this. Beck is over his head on this. What we see in NY is Conservatives sending the GOP a message that we will retake the party. 3rd Party in 2012 is nonsense (yet).
Conservatives have been moving toward taking back control since then
Today will be a good indicator of that movement
A third party at this point would be demagoguery not principled politics--Sarah Palin is smarter than that Glenn...
Beck is probably “over his head on this” but I’m still happy he’s making this argument regularly. We have been let down so significantly by our ‘republican leadership’ over the past 20 years, and it gets worse and worse each year. So it’s great that Beck is scaring the hell out of them, and that Sarah is scaring the hell out of them. And us, too, scaring the hell out of them with the tea parties and the activism.
Isn't Hoffman a Republican running on a third party ticket?? He wouldn't be running as the Conservative party candidate at all if there had been a primary instead of a back room deal to put Scuzzy on the ticket as the Republican.
I dunno about that....imo, running as a GOP is a mark against a candidate in my book, not a good thing.
Tie goes against the GOP.
Lieberman is just a confused old man (as am I) who has no idea where he sits on so many issues.
It all depends on whether or not his morning oatmeal repeats on him or not.
But...I'll repeat my question...WHAT third party?
Doug Hoffman's emergence in NY-23 was the first shot across the bow. The strategy is for conservative leaders to let the Washington/New York RINO axis know that they need to lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. In the end, they will not lead, but being preternaturally attracted to power as much as any Democrat, they will follow, and the person they will follow will be Sarah Palin or someone very much like her.
Look at all these people stuck on the stupid party!
I won’t vote for her as a third party candidate. That assures another democrat win.
“A party based on strong Conservative principles will be the second party.”
However, how “mainline Republicans”, of the type that selected McCain as the Republican presidential candidate, view things is very important. I’m not sure if they are astute enough to leave the Republican Party.
This indicates that you will vote GOP over a Conservative candidate and that you expect others to do so as well.
The GOP is too big of a boat to turn around at a rate which will improve things. It’s much easier to be Democrat-lite than it is to be conservative and stand for conservative principals.
Palin Runs—She is the Party!
Stick your 3rd party where the sun doesn’t shine!
I love Beck and we agree 99.9% of the time, but not on this. He always tell us to “stand up”...it’s about time that we do exactly that and take our party back.
Reality check time, people.
If the GOP nominating process is front loaded with liberal states that permit cross-party voting, Palin will not be the candidate.
Repeat. She WILL NOT be the candidate.
So it may be third party, or nothing.
Folks gripe and bitch about the GOP and RINOs but will stick with them thick or thin, won't you?
As it stands today, I'd vote for her on any party ticket.
As long as you personally will put party affiliation over the candidate you will continue swallowing what the GOP puts before you.
Calling someone a RINO now seems to be accusing one of Bestiality. Accusing Rush this A.M. the libs are truly out of it. Moo, Oink, Baa, Woof, Cackle....
I don’t want anything that would split the party and cause bickering that would lead to Zeros win as votes go to two different candidates. But I am sure the Rinos will try their best to hold on to power and the media to given them a platform.
The Rinos split the party and caused the bickering that lead to Zeros win anyways. So I am not sureI want another Rino nominee. SO I am hoping Palin can win the nomination.
It’s the damn media plus some of those Rinos wanting to probably run for president themselves or hold on to power who have been propping up the notions that Palin couldn’t win the nomination.
Not totally sure where Beck is heading with his comments. But it sounds like it is his speculation that Palin may get fed up with the two party system and run as a independent.
Too early to see if that is where we are headed.
It's not calling someone a RINO, they are accusing Rush of the bestiality thing because he said Scuzzo-whats'-her-name has screwed RINOs all over the country, her exposing their sham.
Put John McLoser on the “widdle r” ballot, or an equal RINO like joooollyanny, or the massatwoshits ex gub, I won’t have to think even a nanosecond .... Palin would be my only choice.
Moderates and oh so intelligent and thoughtful idependants are total losers. Either your conservative or NOT.
Gray areas DO NOT exist in my world.
Here is historian Michael Medveds description of that history. By the way, the Whigs were only a party for 22 years.
2. NO, THE REPUBLICANS NEVER CONSTITUED A THIRD PARTY
Whenever I take the time on the radio to discuss the obvious and inevitable futility of minor party campaigns, some smug caller will try to play gotcha by reminding me that my own beloved GOP began its political life as a minor party, and managed to elect an underdog nominee named Lincoln in the fateful election pf 1860. It makes for a good story, and I know it allows misled minions to feel better to believe that its true, but the Republicans never operated as a third party. By the time of the first Republican County Convention (in Ripon, Wisconsin, on March 20, 1854) the Whig Party had already collapsed and shattered, hopelessly divided between its Northern anti-slavery branch and the Southern Cotton Whigs. Refugees (including numerous Congresmen, Senators and others) from the Whig debacle determined to fill the vacuum and, joined by a few anti-slavery Democrats and former Free Soilers, they launched their new national organization.
The first time candidates ever appeared on ballots with the designation of the new Republican Party came with the Congressional elections of 1854 and the fresh organization won stunning success from the very beginning. That very first year the Republicans won the largest share of the House of Representatives (108 seats, compared to 83 for the Democrats, along with fifteen Senate seats (including the majority of those contested in that election). In other words, the Republicans began their existence not as a third party, or even a second party, but as the instantly dominant party on the ballot. The future Grand Old Party showed itself a Grand Young Party not only with its Congressional candidates, but with its first-ever Presidential nominee John C. Fremont in 1856. Rather than making the traditional, pointless and masturbatory third party gesture and winning 2% or 10%, Fremont made a real race of it against the Democrat James Buchanan: losing the popular vote 45% to 33%, and the electoral vote, 174 to 118. The real third party candidate was former President Fillmore, whose anti-immigrant Know Nothing campaign drew a few remnants of the Whigs and took just enough votes away from Fremont in New Jersey and Pennsylvania to give Buchanan narrow victories and the electoral majority. By the time they nominated Lincoln four years later, Republicans commanded clear majorities in nearly all the northern states and fully expected to sweep more than enough of those states (especially in light of Democratic divisions) to put him in the White House.
. In the pre-Civil War election of 1860, the Republicans hardly represented an upstart third party effort: they won a clear majority of 59% of the electoral vote and a comfortable plurality (40%) of the popular vote. The real third party in this election involved the Southern Democrats who abandoned their national nominee, Stephen A. Douglas, and campaigned for Vice President (and future Confederate general) John C. Breckinridge, winning 18% of the popular vote and 72 electoral votes. Meanwhile, former Cotton Whigs and pro-union Democrats from border states launched a fourth party campaign, winning 13% of the popular vote and 39 electoral votes for their man.
Formed in 1854 and majority party in the Senate and Congress and President in 1860, never really a third party.
Beck attacks the Republicans more and more and becomes scarier to me everyday. I just pray his "ultimate solution" is not to move confused, excited conservatives to the Libertarian Party or attempt to start a new one.
Ah yes third parties. There was the moderate John Anderson. Even he couldn't get it done for sorry Carter. And let's not forget Perot's "deformed" party. We really showed that GOP by electing Clinton... twice. And then of course Nadar came through to keep Gore out of the White House too. A third party could be just the thing in a few years... to help re-elect Obama, unless of course people are talking about a MoveOn.org third party or something - Now THAT has promise. ;-)
No, that indicates we need to quit letting the RINOS in the party choose our candidates for us. NY-23 is a shot across the bow, we need to continue to make our voices heard.
The fundamental battle is for control of the Republican Party, and to drive out the RINOs and elitists.
Beware of Beck.
There’s always the first time.