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More Quote Malpractice...(Fraud! Journalistic Skulduggery Exposed re Bishops and Health Reform Bill)
GetReligion.org ^ | November 12, 2009 | Mollie (M. Z> Hemingway)

Posted on 11/12/2009 8:05:19 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

[Do] Catholics or, specifically, the Catholic Conference of Bishops, endorse the Democrats’ health care bill? Hardly.

And yet that’s what the Los Angeles Times claimed in a story written by reporter Kim Geiger.

[snip]

"The compromise won immediate support from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which urged Catholics to 'lend their full-throated support to the Democrats’ healthcare bill.

'The bishops’ stamp of approval means that this bill is unambiguously pro-life and we will vigorously oppose those who suggest otherwise,' the conference said in a statement Saturday."

Well, that’s pretty unambiguous.

Except it’s also completely untrue. The Conference of Catholic Bishops did not urge Catholics to “lend their full-throated support” to the Democrats’ healthcare bill.

And they didn’t give a stamp of approval...

[snip]

The “full-throated” phrase and the following comment come not from the Conference of Catholic Bishops but, rather, a press release from Catholics United. I know they both have the word “Catholic” in them, but this really shouldn’t be that confusing.

Catholics United bills itself as a “non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to promoting the message of justice and the common good found at the heart of the Catholic Social Tradition.” Religion reporter Dan Gilgoff of U.S. News & World Report says that they “provide Roman Catholic cover for the White House and the Democrats.” They’re a progressive activist group...

(Excerpt) Read more at getreligion.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholicbishops; chriskorzen; healthcare; latimes
Read the whole thing. This is simply outrageous. This Lie has literally gone around the world, while the Truth is still tying its shoes.


ACTION ALERT


Everybody, I beg you to send this out --- to Rush, to Fox, to Malkin, to your daily newspaper, to wherever you can get this picked up a.s.a.p.

And Catholics, now I'm talkin' to you --- get on the phone to your bishop and ask him if he knows what the hell is going on.

1 posted on 11/12/2009 8:05:21 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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Read the whole thing. This is simply outrageous. This Lie has literally gone around the world, while the Truth is still tying its shoes.


ACTION ALERT


Everybody, I beg you to send this out --- to Rush, to Fox, to Malkin, to your daily newspaper, to wherever you can get this picked up a.s.a.p.

And Catholics, now I'm talkin' to you --- get on the phone to your bishop and ask him if he knows what the hell is going on.

2 posted on 11/12/2009 8:12:02 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. " George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Related
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382935/posts


3 posted on 11/12/2009 8:15:50 AM PST by mnehring
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This is a good example of why I don’t think the Church should weigh in on specific legislation.


4 posted on 11/12/2009 8:16:04 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bttt


5 posted on 11/12/2009 8:16:19 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Alex Murphy

Ping-a-ling


6 posted on 11/12/2009 8:17:16 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BTTT


7 posted on 11/12/2009 8:19:43 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BUMP!


8 posted on 11/12/2009 8:19:48 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: theKid51

ping


9 posted on 11/12/2009 8:21:09 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You have to hand it to the scumbag Democrats - - they have lying and scheming down to a science.


10 posted on 11/12/2009 8:21:23 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I certainly hope the bishops’ organization notices what has happened and publicly rebukes the misrepresentation.

However, this seems to be a common lefty journalistic practice when dealing with “troublesome” faiths. Pick some left wing mouthpiece that claims to speak for that faith and trumpet their message all over.


11 posted on 11/12/2009 8:23:40 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: D-fendr

Don’t say nuthin because you’ll only get lied about, eh.


12 posted on 11/12/2009 8:26:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: D-fendr

This is a good example of why I don’t think the Church should weigh in on specific legislation.


Looks like they didn’t. A lefty front organization did.


13 posted on 11/12/2009 8:26:59 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (“Personal freedom begins when you tell Old Mrs. Grundy to go to Hell.” -Lazarus Long)
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To: D-fendr
This is a good example of why I don’t think the Church should weigh in on specific legislation

Would you care to expand that and explain why you think that way?

14 posted on 11/12/2009 8:27:31 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BUMP. I’m calling my Diocese when I break for lunch today. As has been said: A lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on.


15 posted on 11/12/2009 8:38:14 AM PST by Crolis ("Nemo me impune lacessit!" - "No one provokes me with impunity!")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BUMP


16 posted on 11/12/2009 8:55:16 AM PST by kitkat
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To: don-o
Would you care to expand that and explain why you think that way?

Yes. Here's my thinking. First in my mind is the left would love to politicize the church and have us fight and split. Second, the Church teaches spiritual truth and organizes for this purpose rather than political action.

She can and should be active in all areas of our lives, of course. But there is a line that we should be careful of. Teaching about abortion and relativism, for example, is a good and necessary thing. Applying that to this bill or that particular amendment risks fracturing the church and playing into the hands of our opponents.

For an extreme example, if the Church supports legislator X on legislation A, our opponents will organize for legislator Y and legislation B and work to split the congregation into warring camps. It's obvious to me this is their strategy, it would be foolish to play into their hands.

The closer the Church can stick to the clear teaching of on the sanctity of life, the better. This is safe and solid Truth. It gives the foundation for those who wish to be active politically without embroiling the Church and risking splitting it with political debate.

17 posted on 11/12/2009 9:00:21 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
This is a good example of why I don’t think the Church should weigh in on specific legislation.

I agree, the Church and her Bishops should concern them selves with making saints and not public policy. If as much effort were spent on catechisis and proclaiming orthodox teaching rather than the tripe that passes for homilies these days, the people of God would be able to spot policy that controverted the truth. Many Bishops seem to fear the pulpit but relish the podium.

18 posted on 11/12/2009 9:01:26 AM PST by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: don-o

I left out an important point. For those within the Church who are in error on these issues, the proper approach is to their spirit not their politics. And this is the proper mission of the Church.


19 posted on 11/12/2009 9:02:08 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thanks Mrs. Don-o. I've gotten in touch with Michael Voris, however he is under the weather currently, so say a prayer please! (Directness aside, he's an enormous voice for Catholicism in the world today.)

But even Cardinal George had on his waiting room coffee table (several years ago!) some pretty unsavory "Catholic" publications, so you can see how this junk gets out.
20 posted on 11/12/2009 9:10:48 AM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: D-fendr

Makes all kinds of good sense. Thank you.


21 posted on 11/12/2009 9:17:19 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: don-o
...."This is a good example of why I don’t think the Church should weigh in on specific legislation".....

I think he probably just said it wrong. What I think is the "right" people need to state the church position. When someone such as Father Phlager saddles up with Reverend Wright and Louis Farakkan, the Church should discipline them because they aren't representing the real church. Are they getting permission to do and say these things? Maybe they should also be disciplined. With all these church "spokesmen" talking, it's hard to control your message. Kinda like Pelosi saying abortion isn't settled yet in the church right before meeting the pope.

22 posted on 11/12/2009 9:32:55 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Alex Murphy

Calling Alex Murphy to this thread.

Thanks, Mrs. Don-o


23 posted on 11/12/2009 9:41:57 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL! I did scroll down enough to see that you had already done that!

Sorry!


24 posted on 11/12/2009 9:43:24 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Rush rarely covers abortion and homosexual issues. While he takes every opportunity to make jokes about the government schools, he has never ( to my knowledge) covered the fundamental problems that make reform of government schools impossible, or offered any solutions.

And,...Then there are some **glaring** constitutional issues that he flat out refuses to cover. Obama’s natural born status is one. He has even gone so far as to lie saying that he does not who Phillip Berg and Larry Sinclair are.

So?...Should you send this to Rush? Sure! But don't expect him to cover it.

OK..Rush doesn't cover a number of issues but what he does do ( although limited) is brilliant.

25 posted on 11/12/2009 9:49:17 AM PST by wintertime
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To: D-fendr; don-o
Oh, I agree with you, D-fendr. There's a great deal of good sense in what you say.

But it's all that, PLUS journalistic fraud. The bishops --- they're pathetically divided on PelosiCare. Some are just yearning to support it --- yet not a few explicitly oppose it (including almost 50 bishops who, according to Raymond Arroyo of EWTN, have objected to PelosiCare on the basis of "Subsidiarity": that's catholictalk for "Why So Socialist?") which means they still presumably object to it, Stupak Amendment notwithstanding. But what do we hear about this? Zero. Nada.

But No bishop has actually endorsed HR 3962, despite all their equivocating ecclesastical bafflegab. And the USCCB has NOT endorsed it. But Chris Korzen's bogus "Catholics United" group engineered this fraudulent journalistic coup, and it's now made its was to 10,000 media outlets and blogs. Lies, Damnlies, and Press Releases.

And while this is going on Lynn Woolsey and a rep from CO are asking for an investigation of the Bishops and removal of the Church's tax exemption. They are getting it both ways.

People like me who have been straining every muscle to get bishops to break out of the left-wing puzzle maze, are reduced to bashing our heads against a wall.

But no. We're going to fight them.

D-fendr: pray hard, and fight.

26 posted on 11/12/2009 9:50:47 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Salvation

You still have that list of Bishop Contacts, from the old Daze of the Battle of Notre Dame?


27 posted on 11/12/2009 9:51:52 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you and God’s speed..


28 posted on 11/12/2009 9:54:04 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Freee-dame

Well, that’s pretty unambiguous.

Except it’s also completely untrue. The Conference of Catholic Bishops did not urge Catholics to “lend their full-throated support” to the Democrats’ healthcare bill.

And they didn’t give a stamp of approval...

$$$$$

When we think the “news” media cannot sink any lower, something like this “report” proves us wrong yet again.

Just WOW!!! They don’t even care if they are caught in lies. And they are counting on Big Gov to bail them out. Why not? They are lapdogs of this administration and Congress.


29 posted on 11/12/2009 10:17:26 AM PST by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That is an interesting blog, especially since what the writer seems to want is for journalists to find, and report, the TRUTH, in its entirety! It’s refreshing to read.


30 posted on 11/12/2009 10:32:27 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Refreshing is right. The guy who started this blog, Terry Mattingly, is an old bud and a stand-up guy.


31 posted on 11/12/2009 10:39:49 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
equivocating ecclesastical bafflegab

ROTFL! Oh my, is THAT ever an appropriate description of what comes out of the USCCB most of the time!

32 posted on 11/12/2009 10:51:56 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Contact Michael Voris at RealCatholicTV HERE.
33 posted on 11/12/2009 11:05:03 AM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: D-fendr

The Los Angeles Times is run by certifiable crazies.

Lived there for 29 years—and didn’t take long to quit reading that rag.


34 posted on 11/12/2009 11:05:54 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: mlizzy

Thanks -— done.


35 posted on 11/12/2009 11:51:43 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bump


36 posted on 11/12/2009 12:16:37 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Mrs. Don-o

done and thank you for informing me


37 posted on 11/12/2009 2:17:36 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

You’re welcome -— and thank YOU.


38 posted on 11/12/2009 2:47:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks Mrs. Don-o.


39 posted on 11/12/2009 3:56:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for the ping!


40 posted on 11/12/2009 8:58:14 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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