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Barack Obama 'to reject Afghanistan war options in favour of plan with clear exit strategy'
Telegraph ^ | 12 Nov, 2009 | Ben Farmer

Posted on 11/12/2009 9:53:34 AM PST by XHogPilot

Barack Obama is to reject all of the options outlined for increasing troop numbers in Afghanistan in favour of revised plans which include a clear exit strategy, it has been claimed. The report came from a senior administration official close to the high-level deliberations Mr Obama is holding with his war cabinet over the refocusing of the Afghan war effort. The President is said to have raised questions at a meeting on Wednesday that could alter both the size of any possible troop increase and the length of time they are in the country before they can hand over to responsibility to the Afghan government. According to US reports, it is not the first time he has asked for the four options thought to have been presented to him to be rewritten and he is putting up considerable resistance to the strategy put forward by the Gen Stanley McChrystal, the US Nato commander in Afghanistan, to increase troop numbers by 40,000 for a counterinsurgency drive. Other options on the table include sending between 10,000 and 15,000 troops who will focus on training Afghan forces. The latest development came as it emerged that the US Ambassador in Kabul, Gen Karl Eikenberry, has told Mr Obama that a surge of troops was "not a good idea" unless the Afghan government suceeded in reining in the corruption which spurred the Taliban insurgency. Gen Eikenberry, a former military commander in Afghanistan, reportedly cited the erratic behaviour of Hamid Karzai, who was sworn in as President of Afghanistan after his rival Abdullah Abdullah pulled out of a second round of elections because of ballot-rigging concerns.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afganistan; cheeseeating; cowardinchief; cutandrun; flipflop; howtostealanelection; lyingliar; nationalsecurityfail; obama; obamabreakspromises; obamaflipflops; obamalegacy; obamalies; stabbedintheback; wot; youlie
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Obama is a tragedy! Our goal in Afganistan should be to eliminate any coherent threat to US interest. Obama doesn't see it that way. He thinks our purpose was to punish the Taliban for supporting Al Queda. Big difference in my opinion.

It seems Obama's new objective is to get out of Afganistan with minimum political damage. He has no interest in protecting the US.

Leadership/Management 101: 1. State an objective. 2. Construct a workable plan to achieve the objective. 3. Allot funding, personnel, and logistics to commence the plan. 4. Measure results to provide continuous feedback to adjust the plan. 5. Repeat.

1 posted on 11/12/2009 9:53:35 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: XHogPilot

He’s trying to win back his base.


2 posted on 11/12/2009 9:55:54 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: XHogPilot

It is so obvious that Hussein cares nothing about “winning”, or protecting the US and it’s citizens. Tell me again how this prick got elected?


3 posted on 11/12/2009 9:56:00 AM PST by MGMSwordsman
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To: XHogPilot

You forgot #6. When in doubt (when you don’t have the slighest idea what to do), delay, delay, delay. (And get our kids killed.)


4 posted on 11/12/2009 9:57:40 AM PST by RC2
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To: XHogPilot

At this point, with the ROEs that our guys have to work with, the half-assed passing recognition of support from the Democrats, the multiple tours, and the politically correct betrayal of our higher military about our enemy(ala Ft. Hood), I’d say it is time to end this - end it now. Let Obama declare HIS defeat and let our soldiers come home. They are worth far too much to waste them on bullshit like this. Let the large northern cities and West Coast metropolis’ deal with the aftermath.


5 posted on 11/12/2009 9:57:47 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: XHogPilot

It is not when we leave; it is how we leave; my preference... victorious! Any other way is not a strategy… it is defeat.


6 posted on 11/12/2009 9:58:17 AM PST by RonnieFan
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To: XHogPilot

LIBERALS DON’T NEED AN “EXIT STRATEGY”, THEY ABANDON EVERYTHING...............


7 posted on 11/12/2009 9:59:10 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: XHogPilot

Obama flip flops.

He called THIS the “right” war.

You LIE.


8 posted on 11/12/2009 9:59:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: XHogPilot

Obama’s only strategy is to cut and run. He is uncomfortable fighting his fellow Muslims.


9 posted on 11/12/2009 9:59:24 AM PST by mort56 (He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. - Ben Franklin)
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To: XHogPilot

So why did the douchbag escalate in the first place? Dja think maybe it was just a head fake to get his agenda through? That kind of dicking around with military personnell is really reprehensible and irresponsible.


10 posted on 11/12/2009 10:01:26 AM PST by Nonstatist
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Tell me again how this prick got elected?

Lies and propaganda. Come on! All the "cool" kids are doing it. What are you, a racist? Free money! If we need to force people to buy insurance in this new Obamacare plan, why didn't we just start with legislation to require insurance (from your employer or private coverage) before changing the system for those who LIKE their insurance?

11 posted on 11/12/2009 10:02:05 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: XHogPilot

Lie, lie and lie. That’s all this guy does.


12 posted on 11/12/2009 10:02:32 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Red Badger; Revolting cat!

Obama: “Bush’s fault!”


13 posted on 11/12/2009 10:02:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: XHogPilot
Until someone hands him a plan that has surrender as an option, he will not accept it.

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14 posted on 11/12/2009 10:03:08 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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The Pres--ent is said to have raised questions at a meeting...

Like,
"How can we paint a humiliating military defeat as an endorsement for more Democrats, more fascism & socialism, more misery, and most importantly, more ME in 2012?"

15 posted on 11/12/2009 10:03:40 AM PST by kromike
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To: a fool in paradise

The Killing Fields will be back. The Taliban will kill whole villages that backed us. They will kill every woman/girl who learned how to read.


16 posted on 11/12/2009 10:06:24 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Gaffer

“Let Obama declare HIS defeat”

He’s not gonna do that. He’s gonna blame it on Afgani corruption. It won’t be his fault!

“a surge of troops was “not a good idea” unless the Afghan government suceeded in reining in the corruption”


17 posted on 11/12/2009 10:06:59 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Maybe so. Regardless, it’s time to bring them home. We can’t waste them like this any more.


18 posted on 11/12/2009 10:08:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I sympathize, but I believe the best tactic is to call Obama out on the ROE.

Afghanistan is completely winnable, but Obama’s ROE prevent victory and will eventually force defeat. He is getting our soldiers killed. The solution is not to declare defeat but to get the ROE changed. (Or of course for the Chiefs of Staff to ask for Obama’s Birth Certificate).

Don’t give up on the war. If we choose not to win Afghanistan, it’s going to hurt us very badly. No-one will trust American/Western promises for a generation, just like after Vietnam. The Pakistan/Afghanistan axis of evil will grow stronger and more malignant, and our allies (such as they are) in those two countries will get squashed.


19 posted on 11/12/2009 10:08:19 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: RonnieFan

It is not when we leave; it is how we leave; my preference... victorious! Any other way is not a strategy… it is defeat.


i guess every one would prefer a victory over a defeat ;-)
but then again Nato was allready defeated years ago when “we” started “nation” building in this “region of different tribes who want to live like in the 7th century” (we call it afghanistan).
Why stay if there is nothing left to win?.
Just declare victory to save face and then leave.
This cesspool isn´t worth the death of only one single soldier.


20 posted on 11/12/2009 10:08:55 AM PST by darkside321
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