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Is This T-Shirt Praying for Obama's Assassination?
MS DNC ^ | 11/19/09 | Andrew Greiner

Posted on 11/19/2009 5:36:48 PM PST by Nachum

A new Biblical Obama slogan making the rounds on conservative T-shirts and bumper stickers is being interpreted as calling for the president's death.

The slogan “Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8” seems innocent enough, but the actual verse reads: “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.”

The psalm goes on to say: "May his children be orphans, and his wife a widow." Read the entire psalm here.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassination; obamas; praying; tshirt
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To: MaxMax
Can we use verses from the Koran?

That would be racist!

(go right ahead)

21 posted on 11/19/2009 5:54:02 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Clueless Joe is Obama’s best protection against assassination.


22 posted on 11/19/2009 5:54:30 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t think so, about the T shirt, but I do remember a certain “comedy” show that had a picture of President Bush on the screen with the caption “Wanted Dead or Alive”. (or something like that)


23 posted on 11/19/2009 5:56:05 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: Nachum

I don’t buy this.

It presumes a liberal would actually open up and read a Bible.


24 posted on 11/19/2009 5:56:18 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: Nachum

>Scholars contend that the entire chapter is a plea for God to smite an evil man.

And since when is hating evil bad? The bible says this about it:
— The fear of the Lord is to hate all evil.

>Going beyond simple ill will, the psalm asks that that the victim lose all his worldly goods, that his orphans be abandoned, that his father be remembered as a sinner, and finally, that “his memory be cut off from the earth.”

Now I’m a believer that people shouldn’t be condemned by the actions of their relatives... but why is it bad to “call a spade a spade” and want an evil man to be remembered as a sinner? {I don’t recall a huge attempt by modern cultures to paint Hitler, the secular ‘evil-man’ as a good-guy... try selling Mein Kampf in Germany if you doubt me.}

>Those with knowledge of the bible say the passage, which is part of a class of psalms called “imprectory” prayers, should not be used at all.

Hm, would that be the same people who insist that God is love... while conveniently forgetting that He is a Just and Righteous God? The sort of people who say that the Sermon on the Mount should be taken to mean that a “good Christian” should never be offended, go to court, or stand against the wicked?


25 posted on 11/19/2009 5:59:28 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Drango

Hate speech against Obama........compared to what?

Hate speech against Sarah Palin

Hate speech against President GW Bush

Hate speech against conservatives


26 posted on 11/19/2009 5:59:28 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Morgana; Nachum
No doubt Biblical scholars have a background in figuring out what various verses say, but MSNBC has no credentials whatsoever in that regard.

Take their question as being merely rhetorical and give them this answer ~ see a trusted rabbi, minister, priest or other Christian or Jewish advisor on this matter.

27 posted on 11/19/2009 6:03:08 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: tobyhill
It doesn’t say Psalms 109, Verse 9.

That's right!

But, if they're going to start pulling from other parts of the Bible, maybe they should start at the beginning.

They may just learn something!

28 posted on 11/19/2009 6:03:17 PM PST by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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To: Nachum
A new Biblical Obama slogan making the rounds on conservative T-shirts and bumper stickers is being interpreted as calling for the president's death.

Ahhhhh...so it's only being "interpreted" that way.

I guess that's about as fair and balanced as Ms.NBC can come.

Ah, well. It's a start.

29 posted on 11/19/2009 6:04:54 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Drango

Disagreeing with liberals is hate speech. Next on, staying silent when liberals call for support will be hate speech. Or hate silence, I should say. Or the silence of hate.


30 posted on 11/19/2009 6:05:26 PM PST by libh8er
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To: Nachum
There is no "offensiveness" in that shirt.

The slogan refers to ONE verse. Not the entire Psalm.

BTW, MSNBC....."bible" is properly CAPITALIZED! As in "Bible".

Ignorant infidels. *dismissed with the wave of a hand, middle finger extended*

31 posted on 11/19/2009 6:08:51 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: FrdmLvr
I don’t think so, about the T shirt, but I do remember a certain “comedy” show that had a picture of President Bush on the screen with the caption “Wanted Dead or Alive”. (or something like that)

It was CBS's Late Show in 2000.

32 posted on 11/19/2009 6:12:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Nachum
It is a prayer for the justice of God not assassination.
33 posted on 11/19/2009 6:14:41 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Nachum
Geez, someone outta send this little gold nugget to the idiots....

Freakin hypocrites!!

34 posted on 11/19/2009 6:17:53 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks. I hope they try to make a big deal out of this so-called 0bama assassination. If they do, this image of President Bush needs to be plastered everywhere. I can’t stand this double standard, and I think people who missed it the first time around and who are now waking up will be interested in this.


35 posted on 11/19/2009 6:18:17 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Nice find


36 posted on 11/19/2009 6:18:27 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Nachum

Is this the thread to send insults to the Secret Service?


37 posted on 11/19/2009 6:20:11 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Nachum

>Scholars contend that the entire chapter is a plea for God to smite an evil man.

And since when is hating evil bad? The bible says this about it:
— The fear of the Lord is to hate all evil.

>Going beyond simple ill will, the psalm asks that that the victim lose all his worldly goods, that his orphans be abandoned, that his father be remembered as a sinner, and finally, that “his memory be cut off from the earth.”

Now I’m a believer that people shouldn’t be condemned by the actions of their relatives... but why is it bad to “call a spade a spade” and want an evil man to be remembered as a sinner? {I don’t recall a huge attempt by modern cultures to paint Hitler, the secular ‘evil-man’ as a good-guy... try selling Mein Kampf in Germany if you doubt me.}

>Those with knowledge of the bible say the passage, which is part of a class of psalms called “imprectory” prayers, should not be used at all.

Hm, would that be the same people who insist that God is love... while conveniently forgetting that He is a Just and Righteous God? The sort of people who say that the Sermon on the Mount should be taken to mean that a “good Christian” should never be offended, go to court, or stand against the wicked?


38 posted on 11/19/2009 6:20:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: shiva

Amen


39 posted on 11/19/2009 6:23:51 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Love the post. Love the name. Love the tagline.


40 posted on 11/19/2009 6:24:57 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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