Palin: 'Jews need a place to live'

Jerusalem ^ | 11/19/09 | JTA

[ansel12]

So in that regard I’d suspect that they’d help the GOP win in whatever way they can. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the 2 Presidents since Israel was founded who were seen by the Israelis to have turned against Israel(Carter and Bush41)were both defeated for reelection.

The defeat of those two sitting American Presidents was not a result of a shift of a minuscule number of Jewish votes, so how did they do it?

[happinesswithoutpeace]

Of interest?

[jeltz25]

Well, it wasn’t just a miniscule shift.

In 76 Carter beat Ford among Jews 71-27, 44 pts. In 80 he barely beat Reagan among Jews 45-39, only 6 pts. Now Reagan had such a big win it didn’t matter in the end. Still a noticeable difference.

In 1988 Bush got 35% of the Jewish vote vs Dukakis. By 1992, he fell to 11% vs Clinton. After no Republican had gotten less than 27 since 1968. After 4 of the last 5 had gotten at least 30.

Also, Jews are way more liberal and pro dem to begin with. So even a small shift in the Jewish vote means a huge shift in the Christian vote. IOW, if the GOP went went from say the 22 they got last yr among Jews to 27, just a 5 pt gain, it’d likely mean they had a much larger gain among protestants and catholics, which would be enough of a difference to decide an election.

Bush got 24% and won in 2004, but that extra 2 pts was indicative of the extra pts he got among non-Jews.

So it’s not necessarily a shift in the Jewish vote. Many Jews don’t even really care about Israel anyway. Especially most of the ones who vote dem.

But Jews are sort of the canary in the coal mine. If they turn from the dems even in small numbers, it means others are turning from them in much larger numbers.

I think it’s more an overall thing. People in Israel still know some very powerful people in the US. In the defense, business, media industries. They know how to send signals. That can make a difference. I’m not saying it’s some huge Jewish conspiracy, more subtle nudging. Enough people start getting told “maybe this guy is bad news. you know, we’re ok with the other guy, we think he may be good for us.”

Israel has a lot of ties to US Jewish orgs and groups/ When Jews were unsure of Obama last yr and in 2007, the good press he got and assurances from such groups and his AIPAC speeches helped him a great deal. A lot of included wink-winks and other statements from people close to Israel who passed along the word that he was ok and on their side. There was a huge PR effort among Jewish groups to make him acceptable, to convince Jews, especially older(50+) Jews that Obama could be trusted on Israel and other issues. Probably pushed him from the high 60s/low 70s to the high 70s. Maybe even more.

Now, everyone knows they’ve been sold a bill of goods. If that machinery were to turn against him, and especially if it were to actively support his opponent or at least work to make him(or her)be seen as acceptable(especially to Jewish voters who tend to be cool to Republicans because they’re seen as too Christian and religious), that could be a big deal. Especially in FL, older voters in OH. McCain got 48% in FL last year. Even a small shift among Jews there could get him to 50.

Or, maybe it’s just a coincidence that the 2 Presidents seen as most anti-Israel both went down after one term. I don’t think so, though.

[weston]

Interesting post, Marie. Sarah has been studying hard since her resignation. She is probably ahead of us all in knowing what is currently happening around the world. John Bolton is advising her.

[SoCalPol]

Rabbi Yosef Greenberg speaking on Jun of 2008 as Gov. Palin [seen in photo] signs bill on the 60th Aniv. of Israel

[SoCalPol]

Gov. Palin signed a resolution in June of 2008 recognizing Israel’s 60th anniversary and the unique relationship between Alaska and the Jewish State, especially the fact that Alaska Airlines played a critical role in the rescue of 40,000 Yemenite Jews in 1948 and 1949.

Gov. Palin has established a great relationship with the Jewish community over the years and has attended several of our Jewish cultural gala events.

[Z in Washington]

Her general views on Israel tend to support the probability that she meant the statement in relation to a ‘gathering’ said by evangelicals to herald ‘end times’.

A weird thing for Christians to embrace, but a prevalent heresy in Christian churches all the same.

[Z in Washington]

Shouldn’t Americans embrace freedom of religion, instead of endorsing a country which does not?

[TheAngloAmericanDude]

Sorry hoss, but I’m pretty sure most Americans support freedom of religion AND Israel.

[Z in Washington]

Why support a country defined by a religion which rejects Christ?

[SoCalPol]

So you say I don’t have freedom of religion to be able to post what was stated.

If you don’t like Jews, you can always move on over to Stormfront.

[Z in Washington]

Offer a quote from me that impugns freedom of religion.

You cannot.

Because there aren’t any.

Offer a quote from me that in any way shape or form advocates mistreatment of any particular religious group.

You cannot.

Because there aren’t any.

[rmlew]

Israel is a Western nation. Besides, name one Christian country these days.

[Pining_4_TX]

Based on a very poor understanding of the Bible, I might add.

I really wanted to like SP, but she is just not presidential material. She certainly cannot compare to Reagan.

[SoCalPol]

You have a history of anti Jewish posts and
will look for anything to bash Sarah Palin.

[Liberty Valance]

[Z in Washington]

With regards to the first part of that lie, quote one.

With regards to the second part of that lie, quote one.

[Z in Washington]

I would like to see her write books, give talks, etc.

She can do some good in some areas, even though I disagree with her in other areas.

Someone else should be the nominee in 2012.

[PieterCasparzen]

There are far more muslims who want to cut off the heads of non-muslims than there are Jews who want to cut of the heads of non-Jews or Christians who want to cut of the heads of non-Christians.
I have never heard of any violence by Jews directed towards Christians; I’m sure there must have been some sometime - maybe - but not a day goes by that we don’t hear of muslim extremists killing people. So us Christians tend to side with Israel, period, and view muslims as a constant threat.
I don’t see anything in the Bible that directs me to forcefully convert anyone to Christianity, but I certainly see a right of self-defense.

[Z in Washington]

Israel is a Western nation.

Define "Western".

Besides, name one Christian country these days.

In the sense of a country's dominant culture being in accordance with Christian values? America was, and hopefully will be again.