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Obama in a Bind Over Country of Birth
News Blaze ^ | November 25, 2009 | Alan Gray

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama is in a fix over his country of birth.

The President started to dig the hole as Senate candidate and now he is president, the hole is getting deeper and uglier, mainly because of his evasive actions. Many Democrat supporters are either ignoring the problem or are vehemently attacking "birthers" who question the President's eligibility.

Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats are wondering why Obama is fighting so hard to hide his origin.

Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.

The President and his legal teams have done everything in their power to prevent anyone from accessing his real birth certificate, if he has one, but there are other lines of investigation they cannot block.

During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.

Obama can't have it both ways. The answer to this question will be interesting!

Of course, he could say the campaign and the reporters all got it wrong, but it will be interesting to follow the trail on this investigation and discover the sources for the AP story that documents the apparent fact that Obama was Kenyan born.

If it wasn't the truth back then, why didn't he stop the campaign using that information and why didn't he make the AP issue a retraction?

Obama supporters who say it is nobody's business, need to take a step back, imagine the president is George Bush and ask themselves the same question they should ask now. "Is it OK for the President to hide his origin and what are his motives for doing it?"

I want there to be a simple, truthful answer to these questions, but I have a strange feeling the answer is not what any of his supporters wants to hear.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; hoax; ineligible; kenyabelieveit; kenyanborn; notpresident; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; soetoro; treason; unconstitutional
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A reminder that with enough truth lies will fail.
301 posted on 11/27/2009 1:36:11 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Would spring please arrive early, My new motorcycle awaits to run free and wild.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
English law has never followed jus sanguinis.

We haven't been subject to English Law since July 4, 1776, or didn't you get the memo.

As far as the rest of your convoluted scenario -- that's nice.

You are completely wrong in your definition of "natural born" citizen. Please educate yourself:

Natural Born Citizen -- The Law


302 posted on 11/27/2009 2:37:00 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Where the parents are born is of no consequence if the child is born on US soil.

I never said it was, I said they had to be citizens.

The child is automatically a natural born citizen of the country.

If the parents are not citizens, the child is not eligible to be president. Everything else yes.

Your argument of “look on the internet and read what people write in forums” as the basis for your belief if beyond scary.

I never said that either. I said look on the FreeRepublic. This has been rehashed so many times by people on both sides this is just beating a dead horse. I'm not going to refight this issue just for your convenience...people did research, go read it yourself.

The founders knew what they meant, they used the then-contemporary definition, you can find it in their writings, and by another poster on this very thread.

Besides, you don't know where he was born nor who the father was. I, the son of a foreign national mother know those facts about myself and so do most Americans.

Your uncurious faith in the unknown is what is scary.

The founders worst fears may well have been realized and we have a right to know the facts. What is obvious, is that our current president hates America, is doing his level best to tear it down in a hurry, and shows subservience to our enemies...Or do you deny that too?

303 posted on 11/27/2009 4:15:21 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Drew68
Let's see. Outside of the birther circus there is no compelling evidence that Obama was born anywhere besides Hawaii and outside of the birther circus nobody is buying this absurd definition of Natural Born Citizen that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens.

Does that also includes your pals Bill & Hillary Clinton???

304 posted on 11/27/2009 4:27:37 AM PST by danamco
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It does matter, but too many important people are reaping short term profits from this fraud and his pals.

Too bad that the long term will be disastrous to everyone.

305 posted on 11/27/2009 6:10:20 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: Drew68

Let’s see, maybe this can help you out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk&feature=player_embedded


306 posted on 11/27/2009 7:55:22 AM PST by danamco
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To: MikefromOhio

what scares me is plugs might put pelosi in as his VP.


307 posted on 11/27/2009 8:32:47 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Brytani

Happy thanksgiving to you as well.

Ever the uphill battle.

Congress couldn’t care less,
The judiciary is squashing every inquiry
And the msm completly ignores.

Argh


308 posted on 11/27/2009 8:37:18 AM PST by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Brytani
Sure did! Tummies got full and we sure didn't need to eat again last night! :)

Enjoy your feast today! :)

309 posted on 11/27/2009 9:28:59 AM PST by seekthetruth ("PLEASE PRAY FOR OBAMA - Psalm 109:8 ")
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To: rawcatslyentist

That is NOT an accurate quote.

It has been added to.

The original quote said NOTHING about place of birth, or NBC status. Even so Dr Fukino has neither authority, nor expertise to grant NBC status!

The REAL quote, only stated that Stinky has a BC.

No other details were stated or revealed in the original EXACT statement.

More smears from smears.


Dr. Fukino issued two different statements. The one you are referring to was her original statement issued in October of 2008. She then issued a second statement this past July of 2009.
Here’s a link for you of her second statement from the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper report syndicated through USA Today :
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm


310 posted on 11/27/2009 9:58:01 AM PST by jamese777
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To: danamco
Of course you are right. We can jump up and down all we want, but unless there is someone with the enough horse power get an investigation started it will come to nothing, unfortunately.
311 posted on 11/27/2009 10:19:57 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Good Point - Witness Protection President. Still leaves a HUGE question tho huh? CO


312 posted on 11/27/2009 11:43:24 AM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Beckwith; 2ndDivisionVet; patriot08; pissant; BP2; Candor7; Frantzie; LucyT; thouworm; george76; ...
The only mention of his alleged Kenyan birth during the Senate campaign came from African news sources, not Obama and and his team.

BTW, the author of the posted article in this thread appears to be either ignorant or deliberately silent regarding the constitutional ramifications of Obama's place of birth.

It should be noted that, immediately after Obama's election victory for POTUS last November, the Kenyan ambassador to the US stated orally during an interview by a Detroit radio station that Obama was born in Kenya, and three different Kenyan parliamentarians stated so as well (according to the minutes of the Kenyan Parliament).

313 posted on 11/27/2009 12:58:00 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

He was born in either Kenya or Canada. There are facts which point to both, with Kenya as the best bet.


314 posted on 11/27/2009 1:22:35 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: seekthetruth; All
I missed hearing Krauthammer this evening, but his saying that BO was reared in Indonesia is quite significant! One could not be ?reared in Indonesia? at that time without giving up US citizenship (if he did in fact have it to begin with). It is my understanding that Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.

I can testify, I observed, Charles Krauthammer say, President Obama was raised as I was..not BORN and raised in America. Kruathammer said, Obama was raised in Indonesia.

Some one, will find this on You Tube. (Hint)

: )

315 posted on 11/27/2009 2:29:43 PM PST by katiekins1 ( I am preparing a table for you in the presence of your enemies, and you shall feast on the beasts)
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To: Brytani; seekthetruth; PGalt; All

?I believe Mark Levin is right: time spent on this would be better spent on Zero?s actual record.?

I believe BOR would dedicate his entire BS *No Spin Zippo
Zone* detracting and diminishing his *Dwindeling*
Viewers constitutional concerns. BOR, needs to take a flying FLIP! If I could illustrate my middle finger I would!

Lawd! I despise that man!

Notice how suddenly Glen has been strong armed into taking a back seat to BOR. Bold Fresh Tour. Omg! How desperate Bill is! Some one pass the puke pail please!


316 posted on 11/27/2009 2:47:24 PM PST by katiekins1 ( I am preparing a table for you in the presence of your enemies, and you shall feast on the beasts)
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To: okie01; seekthetruth; All
That's the way I understood it

Comprehend Krauthammer’s BLURB however you want. I listened to it twice as it was broad casted on FNC yesterday evening, and again at 4AM CST.

IMO, Krauthammer’s statement was an attention getter!

317 posted on 11/27/2009 2:57:39 PM PST by katiekins1 ( I am preparing a table for you in the presence of your enemies, and you shall feast on the beasts)
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To: Jess Kitting

AP did nothing of the sort.


318 posted on 11/27/2009 3:05:53 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: katiekins1

Living there age’s 6 through 10 is “reared”


319 posted on 11/27/2009 3:19:44 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Electric Graffiti
i. Donofrio destroys the Indiana Court of Appeals arguments.

Oh My I missed that court case. What court decided that one?

320 posted on 11/27/2009 3:27:37 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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