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Climate czar rejects doctored data claims
Washington Times ^ | Nov 26, 2009 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/26/2009 7:36:22 AM PST by XHogPilot

Obama administration climate czar Carol Browner on Wednesday rejected claims that e-mails stolen from a British university show that climate scientists trumped up global-warming numbers, saying she considers the science settled.

"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real," said Ms. Browner, whom President Obama has tapped as his chief of policy on global warming.

The e-mails were hacked from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia and have come to light over the past week. They appear to show scientists saying they've smoothed over data that doesn't back up their claims of warming, and pondering how to freeze out scientists who disagree with them.

Release of the e-mails has energized skeptics ahead of next month's major global warming meeting in Copenhagen, which is supposed to set the framework for a new global treaty to restrict greenhouse gas emissions.

The White House said Wednesday that Mr. Obama will personally travel to Copenhagen to commit the U.S. to greenhouse gas reductions.

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Ms. Browner said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."

She also said the e-mails are only trickling out, and that the entire set hasn't been released.

Ms. Browner initially shrugged when asked about the e-mails, saying she didn't have a reaction. But when a reporter followed up, she said she will stick with the consensus of the 2,500 climate scientists on the International Panel on Climate Change who concluded global warming is occurring and is most likely being pushed by human actions.

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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoczars; bhoenvironment; browner; climatechangedata; climategate; globalwarming
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To: Stosh
You are exactly right. You see very little information about who these people are, but I recall that most of them are "social" scientists, ie, people who have virtually NO real scientific training.

As you know, the "Petition Project" has collected signatures from 31,486 real American scientists...

The current list of petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,714 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science.

All of the listed signers have formal educations in fields of specialization that suitably qualify them to evaluate the research data related to the petition statement. Many of the signers currently work in climatological, meteorological, atmospheric, environmental, geophysical, astronomical, and biological fields directly involved in the climate change controversy.

They also openly list the credentials and names of each of the people who have signed the petition including their specialty. Many are experts in atmospheric research.

I have never seen such a list of warmist believers. They are hiding behind anonymity.

I know which group I'll listen to when I draw conclusions.

41 posted on 11/26/2009 8:07:03 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: XHogPilot

Just who are the deniers here?


42 posted on 11/26/2009 8:09:44 AM PST by Walmartian (Wally "Angelo" Martian. A made man.)
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To: XHogPilot
"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists.who falsified their data."

There, that's better.

43 posted on 11/26/2009 8:13:23 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: XHogPilot

Browner has been one of the key EcoGreenFacists for close to two decades.

She like most other liberals can’t admit that they have been scamming/gaming Americans and others with their Gorebull warming BS.


44 posted on 11/26/2009 8:16:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: XHogPilot
But didn't those 2,500 scientists use wrong data for their conclusions?

In another somewhat related item, Barack Insane Obama's administration advisers less than 10% have any degree or experience in what they advise him on ... whereas Eisenhower had over 90% of his advisers with degrees or experience in their field ....

45 posted on 11/26/2009 8:19:48 AM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: XHogPilot
The more sensible members of Congress need to step in here and DEMAND that BROWNOSER be

F I R E D!!!

The entire AGW thing has been a SCAM about CONTROL and SOCIAL ENGINEERING from the git go!!!

46 posted on 11/26/2009 8:22:51 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BETHERE!!!)
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To: Stosh

The documentary “the Great Global Warming Swindle” has a scientist who makes the exact same claim that these people are vaguely related to the inquiry, have been included on the list without their consent, etc. It’s a travesty when politics rears its head.


47 posted on 11/26/2009 8:26:01 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: XHogPilot
Ms. Browner said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."

I'll put up my 31,000 American scientists against Ms. Browner's 2500 any day of the week. Have a look at The Global Warming Petition at the Petition Project website. We have let them tell this "small group of people" story long enough. There are many, many more scientists who are "skeptics" than there are global warming alarmist "scientists".

48 posted on 11/26/2009 8:27:33 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: reefdiver
Actually I'm glad that Obama is going to Copenhagen.

The MSM will try to focus on "all the good things" at the conference but the impact of ClimateGate on the conference will be a BIG TIME story on the blogs and it will just be impossible to keep it out of the MSM news cycle. Obama may be able to ignore ClimateGate but his underlings will be peppered with questions about it.

This is going to be so much fun.

49 posted on 11/26/2009 8:31:59 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: XHogPilot; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...
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50 posted on 11/26/2009 8:58:47 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: XHogPilot

He is well on his way to getting to cutting emmissions by 17%. We have 10% unemployment now and after he completes wreaking our economy we will surpass 17%.

This has to be the stupidest POUS in history!


51 posted on 11/26/2009 9:04:28 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: XHogPilot

I thought this scumbag Clinton recycle, Browner, was indicted years ago?


52 posted on 11/26/2009 9:06:46 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Bryan24

These people like Browner are not stupid, and are not in denial.

They are EVIL.

They know exactly what they are doing because they have been part of the fraud from the start.


53 posted on 11/26/2009 9:08:23 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: XHogPilot
Ms. Browner said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."

Lying doesn't make it so. "Deniers" are an emerging majority in every poll.

54 posted on 11/26/2009 9:13:32 AM PST by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: XHogPilot
In answer to my own question:

"A bipartisan letter from the House Government Reform and Oversight Subcommittee on Regulatory Affairs on March 21, 1995, charges the Environmental Protection Agency and its administrator, Carol M. Browner, with violating the federal Anti-Lobbying Act...

...But she was never indicted. Somehow, she wriggled off the hook and ended up with an even more corrupt administration.
(Who thought that was possible?)

55 posted on 11/26/2009 9:14:40 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: XHogPilot
... Obama the Presidential Fraud will personally travel to Copenhagen to commit the U.S. to another fraud by agreeing to a fraudulent treaty on fraudulent greenhouse gas reductions.

There. I fixed it.

Did I miss anything?

56 posted on 11/26/2009 9:37:56 AM PST by Gritty (The argument that global warming is due to humans is a deliberate fraud - Dr. Tim Ball)
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To: cripplecreek

Actually, there is such a thing as “settled science”, and, oddly, the global warming scare qualifies.

In science, observation is king. The observed temperature of the earth has been dropping since the ‘98 peak. In science, this is checkmate.

The facts are in.
The science is settled.
There is no such thing as global warming.
Anyone who says that there is, is no scientist.
End of discussion.

No scientist is going to say that the earth has been warming up, while it has been observed to cool down.

The global warming alarmists have got computer models which have projected that the earth was warming up, the whole time it’s been cooling down. In scientific circles, models which reliably project the opposite of what is observed, are known, in the technical jargon, as “wrong”.


57 posted on 11/26/2009 9:44:57 AM PST by Keb
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To: XHogPilot
2,500 scientists can come to the wrong conclusion if the data they rely on is invalid.

As I understand it, satellite data shows cooling, tree ring data shows cooling (except when the decline is hidden), but weather stations, which are increasingly surrounded by heat from cities, show warming for some reason.


58 posted on 11/26/2009 9:45:34 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters (Obama lies.)
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To: manic4organic
The longer they remain in denial the bigger fools them become.

More and more, I'm thinking denial = rope.

59 posted on 11/26/2009 9:49:22 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier (At the first of the year I feared for my grandkids... then it was my kids... now it's me.)
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To: XHogPilot
"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real," said Ms. Browner, whom President Obama has tapped as his chief of policy on global warming.

Many today still consider Stalin infallible.

60 posted on 11/26/2009 10:22:44 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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