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Titan's Surface Organics Surpass Oil Reserves on Earth
NASA ^ | February 13th, 2008

Posted on 11/30/2009 10:29:59 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes.

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Cassini has mapped about 20 percent of Titan's surface with radar. Several hundred lakes and seas have been observed, with each of several dozen estimated to contain more hydrocarbon liquid than Earth's oil and gas reserves. The dark dunes that run along the equator contain a volume of organics several hundred times larger than Earth's coal reserves.


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KEYWORDS: dinosaurs; fossilfuels; oil; peakoil
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And all of this without dinosaurs.
1 posted on 11/30/2009 10:30:00 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Hydrocarbons are the basic building block of the universe.


2 posted on 11/30/2009 10:32:04 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

Oil = Earth Juice


3 posted on 11/30/2009 10:32:57 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

That was my thought. Would this oil be ... oil as we know it.


4 posted on 11/30/2009 10:33:15 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This has been known for a long time. Look at all that carbon it it’s atmosphere! No AGW THERE!...............


5 posted on 11/30/2009 10:34:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Any thinking person has to realize that the “oil is dead dinosaurs” theory is a fairy tale.


6 posted on 11/30/2009 10:34:52 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: K-oneTexas

Hydrocarbons are easily manipulated from one form to another. They could make anything out of Titan’s stuff..........


7 posted on 11/30/2009 10:35:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; SunkenCiv

Dinosaurs on Titan ping.


8 posted on 11/30/2009 10:35:35 AM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Buy Titan Oil Company stock now.


9 posted on 11/30/2009 10:37:42 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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To: bunkerhill7

They’ve already got a football team in Nashville ... just sayin’


10 posted on 11/30/2009 10:38:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

bump


11 posted on 11/30/2009 10:39:50 AM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

SWEET !!! ... now how do we get it here?


12 posted on 11/30/2009 10:40:22 AM PST by dartuser ("Nothing sways the stupid more than arguments they can't understand")
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To: marron

You mean as in “carbon based units”?
Yeah, but you need nitrogen, sulfur, phosphorous,iron, magnesium,etc.
...ain’t nothing living that doesn’t have those.


13 posted on 11/30/2009 10:42:18 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Some oil Baron from Dubai will beat us there. Bank on it...


14 posted on 11/30/2009 10:42:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Try not to think TOO simplistically.

The classifications for hydrocarbons defined by IUPAC nomenclature of organic chemistry are as follows:

1. Saturated hydrocarbons (alkanes) are the most simple of the hydrocarbon species and are composed entirely of single bonds and are saturated with hydrogen. The general formula for saturated hydrocarbons is CnH2n+2 (assuming non-cyclic structures). Saturated hydrocarbons are the basis of petroleum fuels and are either found as linear or branched species. Hydrocarbons with the same molecular formula but different structural formulae are called structural isomers.As given in the example of 3-methylhexane and its higher homologues, branched hydrocarbons can be chiral. Chiral saturated hydrocarbons constitute the side chains of biomolecules such as chlorophyll and tocopherol.

2. Unsaturated hydrocarbons have one or more double or triple bonds between carbon atoms. Those with one double bond are called alkenes, with the formula CnH2n (assuming non-cyclic structures). Those containing triple bonds are called alkynes, with general formula CnH2n-2.

3. Cycloalkanes are hydrocarbons containing one or more carbon rings to which hydrogen atoms are attached. The general formula for a saturated hydrocarbon containing one ring is CnH2n.

4. Aromatic hydrocarbons, also known as arenes, are hydrocarbons that have at least one aromatic ring.

Hydrocarbons can be gases (e.g. methane and propane), liquids (e.g. hexane and benzene), waxes or low melting solids (e.g. paraffin wax and naphthalene) or polymers (e.g. polyethylene, polypropylene and polystyrene).

15 posted on 11/30/2009 10:43:36 AM PST by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: MHGinTN; tx_eggman
They’ve already got a football team in Nashville ... just sayin’

That's right... Titan is made of oil... and the Titans are made of Oilers.
16 posted on 11/30/2009 10:44:49 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: bunkerhill7

I think that Tyrell Corporation is the way to play it.


17 posted on 11/30/2009 10:48:59 AM PST by oblomov
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To: SpinnerWebb

Eggs ackley!


18 posted on 11/30/2009 10:49:25 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Is Titan having global warming?


19 posted on 11/30/2009 10:50:55 AM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: Dead Corpse
"Some oil Baron from Dubai will beat us there. Bank on it..."

Well it's not like Obama or the democrats would let us drill there.

20 posted on 11/30/2009 10:52:24 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

No drilling necessary!

Just ‘suck it up’!

:)


21 posted on 11/30/2009 10:54:21 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I heard the Arabs are blaming the Jews for trying to steal Titan’s oil from them.


22 posted on 11/30/2009 10:56:08 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Some oil Baron from Dubai will beat us there.

T. Boone Pickens needs to dump his stock on windmills and invest in interplanetary oil freighters......

23 posted on 11/30/2009 10:56:52 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Earth First! (We’ll mine the other planets later).


24 posted on 11/30/2009 10:57:20 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Bigh4u2
"Just ‘suck it up’!"

Yeah, but again the democrats will outlaw sucking, unless you're practicing politics as a member of their party.

25 posted on 11/30/2009 10:57:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: MHGinTN

I knew Vince Young was good...but damn!


26 posted on 11/30/2009 10:58:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Pistolshot
Hydrocarbons can be gases (e.g. methane)

Actually on Titan most of the methane is a liquid. It is very cold in Titan. It essentially fills the same role as H2O on Earth. There are literally oceans of it, that then evaporate and fall as methane rain in the highlands. The radar images look a lot like a vegetation free Earth, but of course looks are deceiving as water would be harder than granite there and what are normally gasses hear are liquids and solids there. And there is no free O2 on Titan. Otherwise you would have H2O and CO2 plus a big blue flash.
27 posted on 11/30/2009 10:59:51 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

first, I put up a space station high above Texas, then I lower a hose down to the ground. The space tankers will bring the oil from titan to my space station and I will pour it down the hose. Near the bottom I will have the oil flow spin turbines to make electricity.

Gas will be cheap and big V-8’s will be king again.


28 posted on 11/30/2009 11:02:54 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: GonzoGOP
I knew about the methane lakes on Titan. I was just responding to the simplistic view that hydrocarbons were ONLY crude oil created when the dinos went extinct.

The universe is an amazing place, and our own backyard has what we need to explore it.

29 posted on 11/30/2009 11:03:19 AM PST by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And Titanian Mooselimbs are just waiting for us to come and rape their resources and corrupt their culture.


30 posted on 11/30/2009 11:04:15 AM PST by LiberConservative (0bama was elected to lead, not to bow.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I heared that the tanker Nostromo was heading to Titan as we speak.I just hope the crew gets home safely.


31 posted on 11/30/2009 11:05:18 AM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the Dogs.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

32 posted on 11/30/2009 11:05:38 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: DannyTN

http://www.state.gov/www/global/arms/treaties/space1.html

Already put off limits...


33 posted on 11/30/2009 11:05:48 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Anyone know of a book explaining how, admittedly theoretically, the earths’ deposits of petroleum were developed from the remains of living plants and animals in such massive quantities, and how these deposits came to be concentrated in certain location deep within the earth?
Is this one of those “Just So” stories that we know “intuitively” to be a true explanation, and therefore do not question? I have recently begun to question it, but certainly do not have an alternative to offer.


34 posted on 11/30/2009 11:06:12 AM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Red Badger
Hydrocarbons are easily manipulated from one form to another. They could make anything out of Titan’s stuff..........

Stem molecules?

35 posted on 11/30/2009 11:08:23 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Hot Tabasco

He’ll figure out a way to tow Titan into low earth orbit, then a way to tap that oil.


36 posted on 11/30/2009 11:08:48 AM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: HIDEK6

“Any thinking person has to realize that the “oil is dead dinosaurs” theory is a fairy tale.”

Maybe because nobody (who knows what they’re talking about) has ever claimed that? The conventional thinking is that oil is formed from ancient deposits of algae, plankton, and other microscopic sea life. One of the main reasons for thinking this is due to the close relationship between some of the complex molecules typically found in oil and those found in algae, such as (IIRC) chlorophyll.

It’s possible, of course, that oil is of abiotic origin, but the conventional geological theories of oil’s origin seem to have been quite useful in finding oil and gas deposits.


37 posted on 11/30/2009 11:09:09 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: marron
Hydrocarbons are the basic building block of the universe.

The ratio of Hydrogen to Carbon in the Universe is about 10,000:1. Hydrocarbons are relatively rare.

If you want to exploit Titan's hydrocarbons you still need to carry all your own oxygen. If there was any oxygen around, it would have already reacted to with all those delicous hydrocarbons to make water and CO2.

38 posted on 11/30/2009 11:10:36 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: DannyTN

Or Barney Frank.


39 posted on 11/30/2009 11:12:42 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Elsiejay

90 percent of geologists believe oil is finite and made from decayed biomass and animals. However 10 percent think it is abiotic process, where oil is generated by the earth and not necessarily finite. You need to develop technologies to drill deeper into the earth to find this oil. The Soviets subscribe to this theory and many of their oil fields are deep drill wells. If oil is found on Titan then the biomass and dead animal theory needs to be revisited. It may also demonstrate that oil may be generated by the planet and not finite. Has implication on oil prices and oil company profits if this theory is true.


40 posted on 11/30/2009 11:12:46 AM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

There are plenty of comets around with H20.

Sounds like the fuel source for getting the hell out of this solar system.


41 posted on 11/30/2009 11:16:04 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Pistolshot
The universe is an amazing place, and our own backyard has what we need to explore it.

But the billion dollar question, if you could only go to one, which would it be?
(1) Dune buggies on the Moon?
(2) Climbing Olympus Mons?
(3) Ice Fishing on Europa?
(4) Methanesking on Titan?
(5) Ballooning on Jupiter?

Or we could just spend the money on another failed Obama stimulus program and be stuck in LEO forever :)
42 posted on 11/30/2009 11:16:30 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: dfwgator

You must have missed his last second pass which won the game this weekend ...


43 posted on 11/30/2009 11:19:53 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Fee; Elsiejay

Since the mass of the earth is finite, the amount of hydrocarbons must be finite. We could say, that if the aboitic theory is correct, there is no practical limit on the amount of available hydrocarbons.

Hell, we have over 400 year known supply in the U.S. now, if the politicians would let us exploit them.


44 posted on 11/30/2009 11:23:48 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Geez, I remember reading this back in junior high science fiction books decades ago.


45 posted on 11/30/2009 11:24:47 AM PST by aruanan
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To: fanfan
Dinosaurs on Titan ping.

LOL. Beautiful.

This could go places...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

46 posted on 11/30/2009 11:25:55 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: ItsForTheChildren

Essentially, yes.............


47 posted on 11/30/2009 11:30:00 AM PST by Red Badger (Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; ...
Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me.....

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

48 posted on 11/30/2009 11:31:24 AM PST by Red Badger (Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
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To: SpinnerWebb
They’ve already got a football team in Nashville ... just sayin’

That's right... Titan is made of oil... and the Titans are made of Oilers.

And the Oilers are from Texas, so that leaves one question,What is Bush up to?

49 posted on 11/30/2009 11:32:11 AM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Jewbacca

There is more talk about sending a mission to land on an asteroid, perhaps for this reason - looking for water perhaps.


50 posted on 11/30/2009 11:32:51 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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