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Birthers Return, Compare Obama To An Ape
Mediaite ^ | 12/1/09 | Glynnis MacNicol

Posted on 12/02/2009 8:02:22 AM PST by steve-b

Never fear conspiracy theorists of the world! The Birthers are alive and well and advertising in the pages of the Washington Times. And what an advertisement it is. It's unclear what is more offensive here: the accusation that President Obama is not an American citizen, or the ape imagery. The former, of course, is utterly ridiculous. The latter is not. Also, now Obama is British.

Ape imagery has well-documented racist undertones, making it fairly difficult to miss the subtle message here. Earlier this year the New York Post got in some very hot water for publishing a cartoon depicting policemen shooting a monkey that many interpreted to represent President Obama...

The claims in the actual, full-page advertisement -- the WT has run birther ads before, by the way -- are as ridiculous as you might expect. Now Obama is British. According to the ad, the British Nationality Act of 1948 applied to Obama's Kenyan-born father therefore making Obama a British subject. What it neglects to mention is this:

The Center for American Progress' Ian Millhiser points out that if this rule were actually applied to the presidency, every foreign nation would have the power to remove the President of the United States simply by granting the president citizenship.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; bloggers; certifigate; conspiracytheory; obroma; stuffwarsmadeof
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1 posted on 12/02/2009 8:02:25 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Well, neither have legitimate birth certificates they can show to the world.

Might be something here...


2 posted on 12/02/2009 8:05:44 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: steve-b
The Center for American Progress' Ian Millhiser points out that if this rule were actually applied to the presidency, every foreign nation would have the power to remove the President of the United States simply by granting the president citizenship.

And this clown expects to be taken seriously? LOL that's like Canada suddenly declaring me a citizen and the US government forcing me to leave.
3 posted on 12/02/2009 8:05:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: steve-b
Earlier this year the New York Post got in some very hot water for publishing a cartoon depicting policemen shooting a monkey that many who have no clue how the legislative process works interpreted to represent President Obama

fixt

4 posted on 12/02/2009 8:06:22 AM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: cripplecreek

Precisely — that’s why the arguments made in the ad are absurd on their face.


5 posted on 12/02/2009 8:06:48 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: steve-b

“The former, of course, is utterly ridiculous. The latter is not.”

??? Sounds like the Glynnis girl is saying it’s NOT ridiculous to portray obama as an ape. This entire article makes no sense.


6 posted on 12/02/2009 8:07:22 AM PST by ElayneJ
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To: steve-b

Isn’t the most vocal and public “birther” a democrat?

I think the media trys to portray all birther’s as radical right politically.


7 posted on 12/02/2009 8:08:47 AM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: steve-b

I thought that the 0 fancied himself as the 21st century Abe Lincoln; and, Lincoln was portrayed as an ape by some 19th caricatures, so what’s the big deal? Obama=Lincoln=Ape, there’s nothing racist about that.


8 posted on 12/02/2009 8:09:21 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: steve-b
Glynnis MacNicol appears to be a moron. The cartoon utilizes the well-known see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil caricatures using chimps. Over each of the chimps is one of the words, Congress, Courts or Media.

In no place does the advert compare any ape to the least competent person to serve as President in the last ten generations. Glynnis is either monumentally stupid or she(?) is a race-baiting punk.

9 posted on 12/02/2009 8:09:53 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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This reporterette is a dunce!

Is she so stupid that she doesn’t recognize the see,hear,and speak no evil and puts the monkey spin on this, just seeing racism in every thing instead of what it represents.


10 posted on 12/02/2009 8:10:36 AM PST by barryselby
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You stole my thunder. I was just about to post:

The chimps in the advertisement are representing Congress (see no evil), the Courts (hear no evil), and the media (speak no evil).


11 posted on 12/02/2009 8:16:46 AM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I’m voting for moron as I do with any idiot who sets up a particularly stupid stawman, knocks it down, and declares themself the winner.


12 posted on 12/02/2009 8:17:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: barryselby

‘Tis easier to play the race card to diminish your opponent than to deal with the substance of their argument.


13 posted on 12/02/2009 8:17:32 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: steve-b

I must be missing the part where they are comparing Dear Leader to an ape.

I gave my Dad a birthday card with an ape on it. I didn’t give it to him because I was comparing him to an ape.


14 posted on 12/02/2009 8:18:41 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: izzatzo
Two books which sold a lot of copies had the titles The Naked Ape and The Third Chimpanzee. Both are about human beings. Their authors think we are all apes, so what is the big deal?
15 posted on 12/02/2009 8:20:15 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: steve-b

Curious George was not an ape and Obama does look just like him....the ears...good lord.

Bush was compared to a monkey at best all the time.

so was Lincoln.

Bro can just deal yo!


16 posted on 12/02/2009 8:20:23 AM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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To: steve-b
Would it have been less racist if the ad used the Clinton Administration instead of monkeys?


17 posted on 12/02/2009 8:20:36 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: steve-b
Compare Obama to an ape?!
The ad has the "see, hear, speak no evil" monkeys which are labeled "congress", "courts" and "media"...
Trying way too hard to find something to be indignant about.
Another great "article" from this fabulous site:
"Climategate Smackdown: Krugman Drops Science On Skeptics"
I suppose you'll be posting that next?
Too funny.
18 posted on 12/02/2009 8:21:53 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: steve-b

First off that is a retarded statement. Barry O. has a divided citizenship precisely because his father was a foreign national.

Let’s take their stupid argument further. Any nation in the world could grant citizenship and if a crazy parent were so inclined, they could take their child to the country, where they are now a citizen and claim sovereign rights.

Makes sense huh?


19 posted on 12/02/2009 8:22:48 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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Let them claim there is no long form.
 
1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  That means there is a long form.
 
2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
 
3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 
 
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

  • His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
  •  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
  • The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
  • The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
  • More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

  • His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
  • The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
  • Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 
 
 

20 posted on 12/02/2009 8:23:11 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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