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House cancels estate tax repeal, extends current tax rate
Washington Post | December 3, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 12/03/2009 11:51:04 AM PST by MaestroLC

The House votes 224-199 to cancel a one-year repeal of the estate tax, set to begin next month, and instead permanently extends the current tax, with a top rate of 45 percent on estates larger than $3.5 million.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhotaxincrease; deathtax; estate; estatetax; house; kennedylegacy; redistribution; repeal; tax; taxes; tedkennedy; theymustbestopped
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To: justlurking
No, the $3.5M is an exemption. Anything up to $3.5M is free of estate tax. Any amount over

Thanks. Actually I'm stunned these socialist dems are allowing estates to have 3.5M as an exemption and not confiscating it.

141 posted on 12/03/2009 7:34:56 PM PST by plain talk
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To: SatinDoll
Here's one of the things I learned over the years as a financial planner. 90% of CPAs don't give good investment advise. Find the best investments you can and then ask your CPA the tax consequences. For example, most CPAs do the same ol 401k or IRA advice for retirement.

For my money, the best retirement program is indexed universal life insurance. But it's not a retirement program. It's insurance, that if structured properly in accordance with IRS regs you can use as retirement. So how would your CPA or mutual fund manager tell you about it when they don't know about it or don't offer it?

No I'm not an insurance agent or a CPA. I'm just a guy who decided in his retirement he would find out what was best and recommend it to his clients. After the last few years, people are bailing out of the stock market and looking for something better; something which will be there when they are ready to retire. I believe this is the best I have found. If you know something else, let's have it.

142 posted on 12/03/2009 7:40:58 PM PST by votemout
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To: LaMudBug

“Life insurance policies payouts are tax-free, since they are legally and financially considered an “equal value replacement”.

you do not know your ass from a hole in the ground.”

Well since you are not brave enough to post statements like the above on the forum, but have to do it in secrecy of mail to my acct, it tells me what kind of sniveling asshole you are. Life insurance payouts become part of the the estate .... anything over 3.5 million is taxable.

read the tax law .... care to reconsider??? Not not smart enough ... send more emails in private, that way no one else can see what you are.


143 posted on 12/03/2009 7:41:39 PM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: votemout

LOL.

I’m an Art Historian and know lots about art but darn little about insurance. We’ll see this coming year about my dad’s taxes.

Oh, yeah, do you own any oil paintings by Caravaggio? I guarantee they are worth millions!


144 posted on 12/03/2009 7:48:12 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: HiramQuick
Life insurance proceeds.

If your policy is payable to your estate, the death benefit is part of your estate, even though the beneficiary does not have to pay income tax on the proceeds. A modest estate, seemingly below the taxable minimum of $1.5 million (in 2005; $2 million in 2006-2008 and $3.5 million in 2009), can easily leap well past that point in size when insurance policy proceeds are counted.

To avoid having life insurance death benefits included in your taxable estate, you can transfer ownership of the policy to another person or trust.

145 posted on 12/03/2009 7:50:47 PM PST by votemout
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To: SatinDoll

If your dad wants to see a tax-free program that he can draw from tell him to call Old Mutual or find an Old Mutual Agent. I have one I refer clients and my family to, but she’s in soCal and I think only is licensed in California IIRC. And no I don’t make money off of the referrals.


146 posted on 12/03/2009 7:53:08 PM PST by votemout
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To: pheasant

all the more reason to spend every last dime before you die... screw the kids! I got mine, they can get theirs!


147 posted on 12/03/2009 8:04:36 PM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: votemout

that is very true, ownership can be transferred and it is generally irrevocable and often goes to a trust or another separate identity.

But that is not what I was attacked about .. LaMudbug like many are under the misconception that Life proceeds are totally tax free. Unless onwership is xsferred as you say, the proceeds are another asset to an estate.

At one time it was not a big deal, even when the ceiling was 1.8 million instead of the 3.5 million now. But that was before IRA’s and 401 k’s came into being ... many retired under a defined benefit plan.


148 posted on 12/03/2009 8:09:50 PM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: HiramQuick

You can draw tax free from an IUL policy for up to 45 years if you structure the policy in accordance with IRS regs. However, you are correct about the beneficiaries based upon the value of the estate. Most people don’t have an estate of 3.5 million.


149 posted on 12/03/2009 8:16:43 PM PST by votemout
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To: Jedidah

There are ways to pay no estate taxes.


150 posted on 12/03/2009 8:26:32 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: MaestroLC

we call this a tax hike


151 posted on 12/03/2009 8:26:43 PM PST by GeronL
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To: MaestroLC

Commie reptilian bastards.


152 posted on 12/03/2009 8:36:09 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: MaestroLC

They had to wait until Ted Kennedy died.

Don’t want any of his Heirs to suffer like the little people you know.


153 posted on 12/03/2009 8:38:22 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (All Democrats weren't Slave Owners, but all Slave Owners were Democrats)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
votes 224-199 to cancel a one-year repeal of the estate tax, set to begin next month, and instead permanently extends the current tax, with a top rate of 45 percent on estates larger than $3.5 million

154 posted on 12/03/2009 8:47:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


155 posted on 12/03/2009 9:13:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Citizen Soldier; GraceG
Makes you wish the original 13th amendment hadn't gotten "lost in the mail."

http://www.uhuh.com/constitution/am13-pen.htm
156 posted on 12/03/2009 9:37:36 PM PST by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: fanfan; All

If I understand correctly what I was hearing today, it is 45% of the excess over the $3.5 million, or $7 million in the case of a couple. I would like more information on how the government deals with the $7 million if the couple dies at different times.


157 posted on 12/03/2009 9:43:23 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Little Pig

**Where TF did they get the idea that they’re entitled to the fruits of our success at this level?**

Karl Marx ...only he wanted ALL OF IT!!


158 posted on 12/03/2009 10:45:31 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: Little Pig
"Where TF did they get the idea that they’re entitled to the fruits of our success at this level?"

I believe it was Marx.

159 posted on 12/04/2009 4:39:21 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Especially the DIM-oc-RATS want the fruits of YOUR labor to fund their redistribution plans. Morons! Freaks! Vote the out! Vote them out!


160 posted on 12/04/2009 5:48:32 AM PST by hal ogen
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