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Palin: Stupid Conspiracies
Facebook ^ | Dec 4, 2009 | Sarah Palin

Posted on 12/03/2009 10:23:24 PM PST by vwatto

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; elections; military; obama; obroma; palin; politics; sarahpalin; stuffwarsmadeof; veterans
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1 posted on 12/03/2009 10:23:27 PM PST by vwatto
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To: vwatto

I’m actually glad she took this route. It’s one thing for bloggers to push this, but quite another for her to get cought up in it.


2 posted on 12/03/2009 10:25:09 PM PST by vwatto
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To: vwatto

I concur.


3 posted on 12/03/2009 10:26:34 PM PST by onyx
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To: vwatto

Beautiful triangulation. She is good.


4 posted on 12/03/2009 10:27:52 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: vwatto

You are probably correct, but I just spent hours defending her, and the truth is the interview spoke for itself. She should have let the media run a little longer with the bogus spin.


5 posted on 12/03/2009 10:28:19 PM PST by Sarah-bot (Obama couldn't walk a mile, or up the stairs, in Palin's shoes.)
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To: vwatto

She has a good point. Two good points. Well done Sarah.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 10:29:51 PM PST by militanttoby
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To: Sarah-bot

Yeah, I know what you’re saying, but the last thing she needs is the “Conspiracy Theory kook” lable.


7 posted on 12/03/2009 10:31:50 PM PST by vwatto
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To: vwatto

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


8 posted on 12/03/2009 10:33:47 PM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: vwatto

I’m glad she is distancing herself from the birthers. It’s a terrible move for her to get involved in the birther issue. We have to beat Obama and the libs on more pertinent issues, like taxes, the deficit, defeating the healthcare reform bills, foreign policy, etc., and not side issues that will never go anywhere. Most Americans don’t give a rat’s A$$ about Obama’s birth certificate; they care about finding a job, paying their bills and national security, among other things.


9 posted on 12/03/2009 10:34:15 PM PST by WillT
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To: vwatto
Is she backtracking? I was glad to hear that she said it was a reasonable question. This quick reaction seems almost like she regrets saying it. I hope that is not what she is doing.
10 posted on 12/03/2009 10:35:21 PM PST by JoSixChip (It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. km_freep@yahoo.com)
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To: Sarah-bot

She knew it was a bad route to take and is “clarifying” her statements, obviously.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 10:36:35 PM PST by WillT
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To: Sarah-bot
"She should have let the media run a little longer with the bogus spin."

I have been gone all day so did I miss something. Was there some bogus spin the media was giving today?

12 posted on 12/03/2009 10:36:50 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: JoSixChip

Come on guys this is so much of damned if you do damned if you don’t. Give the poor woman a break.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 10:37:03 PM PST by Sarah-bot (Obama couldn't walk a mile, or up the stairs, in Palin's shoes.)
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To: sushiman
MEGA-PING!!!
14 posted on 12/03/2009 10:37:09 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: WillT

Her statement was “clear” enough. It is only because people have no comprehension skills that she is required to clarify her statement.


15 posted on 12/03/2009 10:39:30 PM PST by Sarah-bot (Obama couldn't walk a mile, or up the stairs, in Palin's shoes.)
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To: WillT
This is what Palin said earlier:

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"Here is the full exchange from HA. (transcript).

Would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?

I think the public, rightfully, is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue ’cause I think there are enough members of the electorate who still want answers.

Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?

I think it’s a fair question, just like I think past associations and past voting record — all of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you, too: I think our campaign, the McCain/Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were and perhaps what their future plans were. And I don’t think that that was fair to voters to not have done our jobs as candidates and as a campaign to bring to light a lot of the things that now we’re seeing made manifest in the administration.

I mean, truly, if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?

Hey, you know, that’s a great point, in that weird conspiracy-theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son. And a lot of people say, “Well you need to produce his birth certificate! You need to prove that he’s your kid!” Which we have done. But yeah, so maybe we could reverse that and use the same [unintelligible]-type thinking on them.


I see nothing wrong in what Sarah said. Let them go after her Sarah will beat them over the head about trig truthers. Its a can of worms nobody wants to open."
110 posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:11:32 PM by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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16 posted on 12/03/2009 10:40:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: WillT
Why don't we conservatives quit using the MSM label of (birthers), we are interested in a birth certificate. The left use’s a term and the conservatives just follow right along with the assumption...I would like to see a birth certificate, but anyone calls me a birther they are just as likely to get an ear full of my opinion of those that use that leftist term.

hand them a little pocket dictionary and tell them to look up the term. If its not there, they are stupid for using it...(not calling freepers stupid, we just shouldn't follow along with the lefts agenda...screw um...

17 posted on 12/03/2009 10:42:29 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Sarah-bot

Sarah could get on Facebook and announce that the sky is blue, grass is green, water is wet.... and The MSM and the left wing of the internet would attack and misquote her.


18 posted on 12/03/2009 10:43:28 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: WillT
This is a mistake on her part. She should have left what she said stand and let the chips fall where thy may. Now she comes across like she thinks it's conspiratorial to ask for prof that the POTUS is eligible to be POTUS.
19 posted on 12/03/2009 10:43:53 PM PST by JoSixChip (It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. km_freep@yahoo.com)
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To: vwatto
She's correct Voters have every right to ask for pertinent information. She doesn't need to get down in the mud with this issue.

Liberals don't care what is pertinent and what is not.

Now that it is so obvious that Obama is deliberately destroying the USA, more people are questioning his validity, his connections, his origins. This is what the voters should be doing, and rightly should have been doing before the previous tragic election.

Sarah needs to focus on the future and how to get the people in office to fix this mess.

20 posted on 12/03/2009 10:44:10 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: WillT
I’m glad she is distancing herself from the birthers. It’s a terrible move for her to get involved in the birther issue."

She is... but she really isn't. There is nothing that Gov. Palin says to discount the arguments of patriotic Americans (the so-called "birthers") concerning 0bama's birth certificate and his unwillingness to let the public see it.

If anything, she adds another layer to 0bama's absurdity on the issue - she appeased the MSM by producing Trig's BC, even though it had absolutely nothing to do with her own eligibility to be VP. She did it as a good-will gesture toward those who did not deserve it. 0bama fails to show the same good will even toward those who do deserve it.

Gov. Palin is simply staying above the fray. She will keep on the issues, including this one if need be. Think two-front war - to say the BC isn't important because the "more pertinent" ones are is a false dichotomy. The BC is every bit as pertinent an issue, even if most of the public doesn't care.

21 posted on 12/03/2009 10:45:10 PM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: vwatto

Do you think if there was the smallest question about the BC of Sarah Palin the rules would be the same from the MSM as they have extended to the Kenyan?

I would think not.


22 posted on 12/03/2009 10:45:49 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Daddy's First Christmas!)
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To: WillT

It says a lot that most people don’t care if the President does not meet the Constitutional Requirement of the Office he holds.

Benjamin Franklin’s quote, “a Republic if you can keep it” is more timely than ever before.


23 posted on 12/03/2009 10:46:55 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (All Democrats weren't Slave Owners, but all Slave Owners were Democrats)
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To: goat granny

People have to stop harping on the birth certificate and start harping on his college records. We know he has college records and there is only one “reasonable” reason not to show them. If he is so qualified then he should be proud to show his transcripts. I don’t want to hear Sarah is not qualified ever again, until I see his transcripts.


24 posted on 12/03/2009 10:47:25 PM PST by Sarah-bot (Obama lets see your 1.O GPA)
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To: GCC Catholic

I hope she does keep talking about the issues that most Americans want to know about. Obama’s birth certificate isn’t one of them. Let’s try the economy, the deficit, jobs, national security, foreign policy, REAL healthcare reform, etc.


25 posted on 12/03/2009 10:47:46 PM PST by WillT
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To: Kickass Conservative; WillT
It says a lot that most people don’t care if the President does not meet the Constitutional Requirement of the Office he holds.

Probably because the definition of the Constitutional requirement for the Presidency is no longer taught in schools.

I was taught what a natural born American citizen was, and that no other type of citizen was eligible for the Presidency. That was a while ago. What are schools teaching now? Stuff from Gwen Ifill's book?

26 posted on 12/03/2009 10:50:24 PM PST by thecodont
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To: WillT

I agree with you finally. I hope she does also, but I don’t want her to disclose a detailed plan until she declares her candidacy. Why give her opponents extra time to nit pick her policy strategies.


27 posted on 12/03/2009 10:52:16 PM PST by Sarah-bot (Obama lets see your 1.O GPA)
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To: WillT
"I hope she does keep talking about the issues that most Americans want to know about. Obama’s birth certificate isn’t one of them. Let’s try the economy, the deficit, jobs, national security, foreign policy, REAL healthcare reform, etc."

Who the hell are you to claim that you speak for Americans? Am I not an American? I want to know about obumber's BC and his collage records.
28 posted on 12/03/2009 10:52:25 PM PST by JoSixChip (It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. km_freep@yahoo.com)
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To: WillT
You're still employing that false dichotomy. The BC issue is a national security issue. That is the reason why it is necessary to have a natural-born citizen as POTUS in the first place. Just because it isn't popular doesn't mean it isn't important.

Gov. Palin will keep talking about the other issues because it is more productive for her to do so. If the BC issue blows up on 0bama, then she won't have to do a thing, and it keeps her out of the fray. It's a wise move.

29 posted on 12/03/2009 10:53:00 PM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: Sarah-bot
Sarah was more qualified than Obama from day one...only the left didn't think so and they are all dumb as a bag of dirt....
30 posted on 12/03/2009 10:53:02 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Sarah-bot

Here we go again: Everyone who doesn’t see it your way is stupid. Sarah realized that her comments could be misconstrued. Therefore, she clarfied her statements. Smart move by her to call the conspiracies stupid, however.


31 posted on 12/03/2009 10:53:39 PM PST by WillT
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Beautiful triangulation. She is good.

I see now that we have two threads, so I will cut and paste my reply to you here that I made on the other thread.

"Like the teenager who grows into adulthood and discovers his old man is suddenly smart, maybe the news media are about to learn that our Sarah who was strangled by the McCain people wasn’t so Tina Fey dumb after all. Ya think?"

32 posted on 12/03/2009 10:53:53 PM PST by onyx
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To: JoSixChip

Check out any poll - the birth certificate issue is not near the top of the “to do” list. LOL


33 posted on 12/03/2009 10:55:06 PM PST by WillT
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To: JoSixChip

Most Americans do want to hear about those things. Perhaps most Americans want to hear about the birth certificate also, but Will what’s his name didn’t say that most Americans don’t. Will what’s his name implied it, that’s true, but lets be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt. It is the Christmas Season let’s not forget.


34 posted on 12/03/2009 10:56:23 PM PST by Sarah-bot (I am listening to the King's Christmas album. It is actually quite good.)
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To: WillT

What. I was just sticking up for you. I see how it is. LoL


35 posted on 12/03/2009 10:58:15 PM PST by Sarah-bot (I am listening to the King's Christmas album. It is actually quite good.)
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To: WillT
Show me a poll that is evidence that most Americans don't want to know that obumber is eligible to be POTUS. I just want to make it crystal clear that you do not speak for me, and I doubt you speak for most Americans.
36 posted on 12/03/2009 10:58:42 PM PST by JoSixChip (It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. km_freep@yahoo.com)
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To: vwatto

And none of this changes the fact that Obama has still not produced his long form, his college record, etc. etc. etc.


37 posted on 12/03/2009 10:58:46 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: GCC Catholic

Hypothetical question for you: In 2010, it is discovered that Obama’s birth certificate is fake and he was born in Kenya. What happens then? Do you think Congress will create a Constitutional Crisis to remove him from office?


38 posted on 12/03/2009 10:59:00 PM PST by WillT
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To: Sarah-bot

Yeah, I saw that. It’s about time LOL


39 posted on 12/03/2009 10:59:50 PM PST by WillT
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To: Sarah-bot

I hope Sarah keeps doing exactly what she thinks she should, and takes no advice from anyone, especially me or anyone else on FR, on what she should do.


40 posted on 12/03/2009 11:02:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: WillT

“Obama’s birth certificate isn’t one of them”

I disagree... The whole issue of his presidency rests on it...


41 posted on 12/03/2009 11:02:39 PM PST by babygene
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To: JoSixChip

Show me one poll that puts “Obama’s birth certificate” in the top 5 issues of importance right now. It’s jobs, the economy, national security, healthcare reform, taxes, etc etc etc. I don’t speak for you, that’s true. But you certainly don’t speak for most Americans.


42 posted on 12/03/2009 11:03:24 PM PST by WillT
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To: JoSixChip

The way I read it, she’s content to let the electorate ask the questions and demand the answers and to keep the issue alive, but she’s not about to let the hateful media transform her into a so-called “birther.”

Her statement is perfectly worded. Let the media deal with THAT. LOL.


43 posted on 12/03/2009 11:04:00 PM PST by onyx
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To: babygene

Well, Sarah called it a stupid conspiracy, so....there you have it.


44 posted on 12/03/2009 11:04:21 PM PST by WillT
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To: WillT

If Congress had irrefutable proof, I think they would have not choice. Congress moved to impeach Clinton for adultery and perjury. If it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama was a usurper then Congress would impeach. If the booty fits you must acquit.


45 posted on 12/03/2009 11:04:29 PM PST by Sarah-bot (If the booty fits you must acquit)
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To: vwatto

Had this been the Facebook entry of Romney or Huckabee, this site would be filled with howls of “RINO” and worse.


46 posted on 12/03/2009 11:04:43 PM PST by Post5203 (The ONLY WAY out of this mess is to enact term limits on congress)
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To: Post5203

That is because Sarah is know to be a moose.


47 posted on 12/03/2009 11:05:47 PM PST by Sarah-bot (If the booty fits you must acquit)
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To: vwatto

She said it, without saying it. Genius!


48 posted on 12/03/2009 11:08:26 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: JoSixChip

>>She should have left what she said stand and let the chips fall where thy may.<<

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No politician would do so for fear that she would not leave herself with a way out. Whatever one thinks of Palin, he or she must realize that she is first and foremost a politician.


49 posted on 12/03/2009 11:08:42 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: Post5203

Romney is a rino, he doesn’t have to ever say another word in his life to make people recognize that, he has enough video documentation to bury ten rinos.


50 posted on 12/03/2009 11:08:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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