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To: Danae
What matters is the fact that he was born to a British foreigner, and Obama inherited that Nationality as well as American at his birth. You can’t AT BIRTH have two Nationalities and be a Natural Born Citizen.

Under Italian law, I have Italian nationality. My great grandfather immigrated here in 1913 and my grandfather was born before my great grandfather renounced his Italian citizenship and became a US citizen. Therefore, under their law, Italian citizenship was passed to my grandfather, my mother and me. If I fill out some papers and provide some documentation, I can get an Italian passport.

If, on the other hand, my great grandfather had come from, say, Spain, which doesn't have a law passing nationality down for generations, I would not have that status.

So, am I a natural born US citizen, since I was born here, both my parents were born here, and all four of my grandparents were born here, or do the vagaries of foreign law control who is or isn't a natural born citizen?

12 posted on 12/05/2009 11:02:04 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Same for my wife. Filipino and American at birth. They changed the law in the Philippines and she had to declare one or the other at age 21. Entire family came to the US.


15 posted on 12/05/2009 11:05:21 AM PST by votemout
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Because your parents were citizens of this Nation and you were born here, you would be considered a Natural Born citizen. In some countries, in order to get citizenship you have to meet certain qualifications, so you could apply to become a citizen of Italy, but it isn't something you directly inherited from either of your parents, particularly your father. In Obama's case, his dad was a full on British Citizen, and a Kenyan. Obama inherited both at his birth. His Kenyan Citizenship expired, and Obama ADMITS that on his fight the Smears site.
Just look at what is buried in the code when I copied and pasted it into this post! Free Republic is directly mentioned as well. Anyway, go to the bottom and read the following:
"FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”"

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“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

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18 posted on 12/05/2009 11:15:13 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

If you are born on American soil & both parents are citizens at the time of your birth, you are a natural born citizen. If If born on American soil & neither, or only one is a citizen, you are a dual citizen. If you are born on foreign soil and one or both parents in a citizen, you are a dual citizen.


124 posted on 12/06/2009 9:44:09 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
If I fill out some papers and provide some documentation, I can get an Italian passport.

I think that would change your present status, and if you do, you cannot run for the office of President

136 posted on 12/08/2009 7:52:27 AM PST by danamco
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