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The short form is not accepted as proof of citizen for a job or a passport or as I understand it, even to play in little league.

Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes. Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.

49 posted on 12/05/2009 12:50:34 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes. Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.

*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes. Applying for passports

So if I brought my BlackBarry phone down to the post office with a picture of my certification of live birth on it.....I'll be able to get a passport? Cool.
52 posted on 12/05/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Drew68
“The short form is not accepted as proof of citizen for a job or a passport or as I understand it, even to play in little league.”

“Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes.

Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.”

I just sent my son his birth certificate — long form — to obtain a passport.

It may be because the short form did not have a raised seal. I have other short forms certificates of family members without a raised seal.

Went to find the requirements for a passport.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html#DS11Instruc

“*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth.

Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.”

54 posted on 12/05/2009 1:35:41 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: Drew68

Also in the 60, 70 & 80thies???


92 posted on 12/05/2009 10:25:37 PM PST by danamco
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To: Drew68
Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes. Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.

While that may be true, one need only be a citizen to play (in most) little leagues, or to get a passport. Natural born citizen is more than just citizen, and the short form may or may not provide sufficient information to prove that. Add to the fact that Hawaiian ones at leas are easily forged, and you really need to see the original long form certificate, which also had more information, such as parent's birthplaces , to be sure of natural born status.

96 posted on 12/05/2009 10:38:25 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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