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United Church of Christ, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterians OK Abortion Funding
Life News ^
| 12/7/09
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 12/07/2009 4:10:53 PM PST by wagglebee
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A collection of pro-abortion religious groups authored a letter today to members of the Senate that essentially places them on record supporting taxpayer funding of abortions. The letter expresses their opposition to the Nelson amendment, released today, to remove abortion funding from the Senate government-run health care bill.
The Episcopal Church, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), United Church of Christ, and United Methodist Church are the four mainline protestant denominations to sign the letter asking lawmakers to oppose the Nelson amendment.
They are joined by the Disciples Justice Action Center, NA'AMAT USA, the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, a pro-abortion group, The Religious Institute, and the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations.
The groups say their position is that there is a "social and moral obligation to ensure access to" abortions "at every stage in an individuals life."
"Reforming the health care system in a way that guarantees affordable and accessible [abortion] for all is not simply a good ideait is necessary for the well-being of all people in our nation," the religious groups wrote.
"Unfortunately, the House-passed version of health reform includes language that imposes significant new restrictions on access to abortion services," the letter incorrectly claims.
The groups call stopping taxpayer funding of abortions "an unfortunate contradiction to the basic guiding principle of health care reform" and a violation of the "moral imperative that unites Americans of many faith traditions."
It identifies the Stupak (and Nelson) amendment as the "selective withdrawal of critical health coverage from women" and "a betrayal of the public good."
"The use of this legislation to advance new restrictions on abortion services that surpass those in current law will serve only to derail this important bill," the pro-abortion denominations claim.
"The Senate bill is already abortion neutral," the falsely claim, adding that it "includes compromise language that maintains current law, prohibiting federal funds from being used to pay for abortion services," even though the language does not do that.
Jewish groups also signed on to the pro-abortion letter, including Jewish Women International, the National Council of Jewish Women, and the Union for Reform Judaism.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; abortionfunding; bhohealthcare; christianright; heretics; moapb; moralabsolutes; notpca; proaborts; prolife; protestants; religiousleft; religiousright; ucc; umc; unitarian
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To: wagglebee; xzins
The only group that speaks for the United Methodist Church is the General Conference, which meets every four years. It has not supported this action.
The article doesn’t say, but my guess is that it’s the General Board on Church & Society (a church agency which has been infected with liberal ‘Christianity’ for some time) that signed this.
Perhaps Xzins, who is an elder in the UMC over in Ohio, will have something additional to add.
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:25:59 PM PST
by
The Grammarian
(Hail to the (Groveller in) Chief!)
To: wagglebee
I should have addressed my remarks to “All” and not to you specifically.
Of course, you know that.
IMO, the denominations which signed on to this travesty are committing heresy and should no longer be considered Christian churches.
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:26:40 PM PST
by
Jemian
To: Jemian
IMO, the denominations which signed on to this travesty are committing heresy and should no longer be considered Christian churches. Nope, many are secularist clubs which meet on Sunday mornings and discuss ways to justify their sins.
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:28:09 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: The Grammarian; xzins
The only group that speaks for the United Methodist Church is the General Conference, which meets every four years. It has not supported this action. I am aware of that and hopefully my dear FRiend xzins can add some insight.
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:29:20 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: olezip
What goes around, comes around. In the case of abortion, the death panels and every statement in the socialized medicine bill that targets “old people” ( for breast exams, etc that starts at 50.)
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:30:04 PM PST
by
WestwardHo
(Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
To: sthguard
The "Disciples Justice Action Center" is a commie group that's infiltrated a number of Disciples of Christ congregations ~ it was "staffed based" up until about a decade ago when the denominational headquarters simply cancelled them.
The Disciples are probably long overdue a real purge!
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:31:59 PM PST
by
muawiyah
(Git Out The Way)
To: anyone
I googled for the Disciples Justice Action Center, and there is pretty much nothing on this alleged group, beyond its support of the House version of the “health care” legislation. Has anyone ever heard of this group? You’d have to suspect it is maybe one of those “two people and a fax machine” organizations.
To: sthguard
Thanks for clearing that up. I have many relatives who are members of that church, and I’ve always considered them very conservative. My aunt who was a member of the Church of Christ had a therapeutic abortion back in the 1930s, when she was nearly forty years old. It haunted her for the rest of her life, in spite of the valid health reasons advocated by her doctor.
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:34:49 PM PST
by
Burkean
To: Coyote Choir
Sorry. I should have waited before writing. Nevertheless, there is very little about the group through Google.
To: wagglebee
So, who’s looking for a new church this Sunday?
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:38:29 PM PST
by
ronnyquest
(That's what governments are for: to get in a man's way.)
To: muawiyah
Well, I haven’t regularly attended a Disciples church for many years, but it does seem that many politically and theologically elements have taken over there.
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:44:52 PM PST
by
sthguard
(The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
To: wagglebee
I'd like to see a list of those churches which teach approval/acceptability of abortifacients like the IUD and (sometimes) the pill.
These technological methods induce abortions that cannot even be counted.
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:47:34 PM PST
by
Petronski
(Global warming is indeed man-made: it was created by man-made manipulation of the data.)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
12/07/2009 4:50:36 PM PST
by
Guenevere
(....)
To: Jemian
Jemian, you and I are always compelled to defend & protect the PCA Presbyterian....
..not wanting to EVER be confused with the USA Presbyterian.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:07:44 PM PST
by
Guenevere
(....)
To: wagglebee
“Nope, many are secularist clubs which meet on Sunday mornings and discuss ways to justify their sins. “
The truth.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:14:38 PM PST
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
To: wagglebee
The Divide grows even deeper in America. Now it’s between the so-called Christian churches. How’s that Hope and Change and bringing America together working out for those Obamiacks.
To: wagglebee; Admin Moderator
wagglebee:
You ought to know better. Are you responsible for this headline?
Church of Christ, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterian Churches OK Abortion Funding
The link has a different headline:
United Church of Christ, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterians OK Abortion Funding
________________________________________
Anyone with any sense knows the difference between the Church of Christ and the United Church of Christ.
Mod: Please change and correct the headline ASAP.
Thank you.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:32:10 PM PST
by
Responsibility2nd
(Ack, is that the site with "Responsibility2nd"? Some weirdo. ...)
To: Guenevere
PCA here, also. I don’t see how any believer can stay in a PCUSA church and provide financial support without becoming complicit in the apostacy. Of course, I said that several years ago. Now this...
To: stephenjohnbanker; sthguard
Thank you. I am a Church of Christ member, and they are the most conservative Christians I have ever met in my life. Indeed. It is also a warm and loving church. Our congregation here in my small town is not very large, but it is enthusiastic and joyful.
To: Always A Marine
Many of Scottish ancestry have been Presbyterians for several hundred years. Its a shame when Liberals destroy another Protestant Church.
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posted on
12/07/2009 5:35:55 PM PST
by
Rosemont
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