Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Six-Figure Federal Salaries Jumped 46% During The Recession
The Business Insider ^ | 12/11/09 | Vincent Fernando

Posted on 12/11/2009 9:39:52 AM PST by FromLori

Because they're more skilled than the private sector.

Latest analysis from USA Today finds that the federal government has been creating a lot high paying jobs for itself.

Yet, the excuse is that they're hiring more skilled people than in the past:

USA Today: "There's no way to justify this to the American people. It's ridiculous," says Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, a first-term lawmaker who is on the House's federal workforce subcommittee.

Jessica Klement, government affairs director for the Federal Managers Association, says the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers. She says federal employees make 26% less than private workers for comparable jobs.

See the full

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; biggovernment; economy; employment; federalgovernment; federaljobs; federalspending; government; governmentjobs; jobs; recession

1 posted on 12/11/2009 9:39:52 AM PST by FromLori
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: FromLori; perchprism; LomanBill; JDoutrider; tired1; Maine Mariner; demsux; April Lexington; ...

ping


2 posted on 12/11/2009 9:40:27 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

Half of every graduating class graduates at the bottom.

These people go into government.

Anyone at college sees private industry recruiting on campus with only the high achievers.

This is BS they are hiring better then private industry.


3 posted on 12/11/2009 9:42:04 AM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

This is outrageous. Recommend everyone click on the link and read this in full.


4 posted on 12/11/2009 9:43:35 AM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

37 czars with 6-figure salaries should just about cover that 46%


5 posted on 12/11/2009 9:44:02 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spyone

and this...

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20091211/1afedpay11_st.art.htm?loc=interstitialskip


6 posted on 12/11/2009 9:44:26 AM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: FromLori
"There's no way to justify this to the American people. It's ridiculous," says Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, a first-term lawmaker who is on the House's federal workforce subcommittee.

Drain your own swamp first, Congressman. I know you're only a rookie, but Congress is the problem, incapable of policing itself.

7 posted on 12/11/2009 9:46:45 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cletus.D.Yokel

according to the article: 19% of all civil servants now make more than $100,000! This is where the stimulas money went. Too prop up federal union wages.


8 posted on 12/11/2009 9:47:55 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Cletus.D.Yokel
37 czars with 6-figure salaries should just about cover that 46%>

Let's not forget FLOTUS' staff.

9 posted on 12/11/2009 9:48:20 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: FromLori
Jessica Klement, government affairs director for the Federal Managers Association, says the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers. She says federal employees make 26% less than private workers for comparable jobs.

1. Federal Managers Association = Union.

The Federal Managers Association is the oldest, largest, most influential professional association representing the interests of the nearly 200,000 managers, supervisors, and executives serving in today's Federal government. Since 1913, FMA has been a passionate advocate for excellence in Federal public service through effective management, as well as a forceful champion of its members' legislative agenda.
2. Federal employees make 26% less ...

Either they are stupid, or Ms. Klement is lying. Count the lifetime payout, not just annual salary; and note too the absence of risk of layoff. Once in, "permanent," there are no federal downturns. There is NOPLACE in private employment with that perk.

10 posted on 12/11/2009 9:48:33 AM PST by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

“...She says federal employees make 26% less than private workers for comparable jobs...”

Knee-jerk reaction is to doubt this for a few reasons, one being: Are they comparing total compensation or just salary? There’s a drammatic difference between a public sector at-will employed person paid X per year w/benefits vs. public sector (pension, Cadillac benefits, possible union, cola, etc.) job also also paid X per year.


11 posted on 12/11/2009 9:49:18 AM PST by Made In The USA (The only thing better than bacon, is bacon wrapped in bacon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

How many people here have seen a former GOVT. worker who ‘retired’ after 20 years to work in the private sector?

(nevermind the double income from retirement and 2nd job)

They are the worst!

They think back-stabbing, power consolidation, and work pawning are normal daily activities. Almost as if they think the private workplace is a ‘survivor’ episode and they need to make ‘alliances’

I think survivor is a good example of the mind-set of the govt work force. If you can stomach watching it


12 posted on 12/11/2009 9:50:53 AM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid my typos become a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FromLori
In 2008, the median family income in the US was $50,233. The simple implication is that a federal bureaucrat that is paid $100,466 costs us the entire income of two average families, plus whatever the cost of the fringe benefits are, not counting all the economic damage he oversees.

We have been feeding Leviathan far too much for far too long. He has grown into a self-serving Leviathan whose purpose in living is to become a more perfect parasite on our personal wealth. The only way to deal with such a beast is to put it on a starvation diet.

13 posted on 12/11/2009 9:53:01 AM PST by theBuckwheat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K

What are you talking about? If a federal employee retires they have a 401K they pay into like the private sector. Works just like the private sector.


14 posted on 12/11/2009 9:54:45 AM PST by thomas16
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Cboldt

They could be “Riffed” but are impossible to fire.


15 posted on 12/11/2009 9:55:18 AM PST by steve8714 (To paraphrase St. Paul; Ain't no harm in havin' a little nip, but don't fall down, bust your lip.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

Skunk-a-palooza ..... and the robbery of the taxpayer rolls on


16 posted on 12/11/2009 9:57:15 AM PST by dennisw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thomas16

Don’t they have PERS instead of SS?


17 posted on 12/11/2009 9:57:18 AM PST by Pessimist (u)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: FromLori
It is incumbent upon the honorable craftsman
to be aware of whether or not his services are being used
as a means to accomplish evil ends -
and to act accordingly.
 
Federal parasites.... honorable or evil?

18 posted on 12/11/2009 9:57:57 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FromLori
The professional Ruling class is enriching itself, no surprise here this is what professional ruling class always does.
19 posted on 12/11/2009 10:00:17 AM PST by jpsb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist

They pay social security and pay into a 401k. Your back in the 1970’s. Never heard of “PERS” They pay for their health insurance, the private sector’s health insurance is usually cheaper. Most of the Federal workforce has at least a college degree. Also, most of the Federal workforce are located in metropolitan, high cost localities. If they don’t do their job they do get fired. It is not difficult to fire a federal employee.


20 posted on 12/11/2009 10:03:24 AM PST by thomas16
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Night Hides Not
>>Drain your own swamp first, Congressman.

Heh. That's (draining the swamp) part of what corrupted D.C. in the first place.

If D.C. had been left in its original, mosquito infested swamp, state instead of drained and turned into a Federal Utopia... maybe the parasites presenting infesting the place wouldn't have been so inclined to take up permanent residence there?

21 posted on 12/11/2009 10:03:43 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Flavious_Maximus

What crap! And the goobberment points fingers at the excutive salaries that are being paid in industry...

Government needs to look at those three fingers pointing back at itself.

Just like that Bush flogging horse they created.


22 posted on 12/11/2009 10:06:42 AM PST by himno hero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: himno hero

This is a straw man. The problem is the man behind the curtain. The shadow government. Look behind the smoke at the Federal contractors. They are multi millionaires on the backs of the American people. There are at least as many federal contractor employees as Federal employees, maybe more, that receive tax payer money. Many who make at least $200,000 a year. But the media ignores this. Most of DC is federal contractors.


23 posted on 12/11/2009 10:13:17 AM PST by thomas16
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K
[I think survivor is a good example of the mind-set of the govt work force. If you can stomach watching it]
 
Unfortunately, it's typical of the post-modern collective/corporate work environment in general.   I think most of these collectivist Eunuchs would eat each others children... if they could even produce children in the first place.
 
Gone are the days when pride in one's craftsmanship and work-product were primary motivators....
 

The work-product of American governance?
 
"TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS"
 
Gone, apparently, as well...

24 posted on 12/11/2009 10:13:47 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: thomas16
Freepmail.
25 posted on 12/11/2009 10:13:55 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: jpsb

Yes not only that way but this way too the bailouts they privatized the profits and socialized the losses

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=a_FBCEcYdwOY


26 posted on 12/11/2009 10:20:51 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: edcoil

One thing I learn in life is never make that type of judgement on people’s career choices. I remember people in college used to make fun of engineers who chose ROTC or government careers. Today they are the ones who have steady jobs and the ones in private industry, especially if they are older than 45 years old are the ones who get laid off and with the recession many are unemployed. Now they must go and ask people who they called losers for a job in the government.


27 posted on 12/11/2009 10:49:37 AM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

So, does anyone have a link to a verified 2010 GS Pay Scale?


28 posted on 12/11/2009 11:13:41 AM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spyone; FromLori

Yes it is outrageous. It is obscene.


29 posted on 12/11/2009 11:28:22 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obamacare + Obama's EPA + Demobama Dectruction of economy = many will die unnecessarily)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: PLMerite

Until Congress decides on the cost of living increases, there is no verifiable 2010 pay scale. The closest thing is the 2009 data found on the opm.gov website.

A note of caution. There really isn’t a pay scale since many localities are paid at different rates based upon cost of living. The GS scale only applies to the areas where there are few government employees.


30 posted on 12/11/2009 11:33:18 AM PST by DugwayDuke
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Flavious_Maximus
Overall, the recession has been a boon for the Beltway crowd. The Washington metropolitan area received nearly 10 times as much stimulus money per capita as the national average, keeping the unemployment rate in the area at 6.2 percent, far below rates of other large cities—9.3 percent in New York; over 10 percent in Chicago, Atlanta and Los Angeles—and the national average of 10.2 percent. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405637/posts

you will be federalized,unionized,and assimilated by the Borgbama:

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

31 posted on 12/11/2009 1:49:22 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: PLMerite

Is it
(a) step increases? (Hard to believe; these are small but generally unpreventable)
(b) quality step increases (again small but it takes action by the supervisor to get one)
(c) grade increases? (not just action by the supervisor but also the supervisor’s supervisor, personnel, et al.)
(d) promotions to Senior Executive Service?


32 posted on 12/11/2009 4:55:40 PM PST by scrabblehack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

Bump


33 posted on 12/11/2009 4:56:30 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thomas16

It does happen. Collect your TSP and stay on as a contractor, get a job at a college, etc.


34 posted on 12/11/2009 4:57:50 PM PST by scrabblehack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: FromLori

Has the big government lobby of the Free Republic showed up here yet?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405542/posts


35 posted on 12/11/2009 5:01:35 PM PST by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scrabblehack

It’s a mixture of all four I suppose. The Agencies dealing with high-tech matters have to pay people salaries comparable to what they could make in the private sector just to get them on board.

Someone who can make >$150k with a private company isn’t going to work for the gov’t for very much less even in exchange for job security.


36 posted on 12/11/2009 5:20:06 PM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: thomas16

Everything you’re saying goes against everything I have ever heard, but I presume you know wherof you speak.

PERS is the Public Employees Retirement System. It’s a much better deal than SS. This still exisits, and I know at least 2 people in it. Although they weren’t fed employees (state and county).


37 posted on 12/12/2009 10:20:25 AM PST by Pessimist (u)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson