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Now Let Us Admire The Clever Way In Which Bank Of America Has Screwed Taxpayers Again (BAC)
http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-now-let-us-admire-the-clever-way-in-which-bank-of-america-has-screwed-taxpayers-again-2009-12 ^

Posted on 12/12/2009 10:18:15 AM PST by Orange1998

The main reason Bank of America paid back the money was to get out from under the onerous pay caps that makes it harder to keep its people and attract a new CEO. To make the payment, Bank of America had to take huge dilution at what a year ago would have been considered an appalling price. Bank of America may be healthier than it was 9 months ago (maybe), but shareholders certainly didn't consider selling $19 billion of equity at $15 a share cause for celebration.

But aren't taxpayers better off now that Bank of America has paid us back?

Not if you thought the control and pay restrictions TARP provided were a good thing.

What Bank of America has done is simply replace one form of taxpayer sponsored capital (TARP) with equity and another form of taxpayer sponsored capital--loans from the Fed. Those loans carry super-low interest rates, so they'll help Bank of America make more money at taxpayer expense. Those loans also, importantly, come with NONE of the restrictions that TARP does.

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They refinanced the debt with the FED. Now they can go back with business as usual ie: huge bonuses, little oversight.
1 posted on 12/12/2009 10:18:15 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998
I knew this engineered pay back stuff was 99.99% bogus. Has anyone of the really written a check on funds not borrowed.
2 posted on 12/12/2009 10:20:24 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Orange1998

Screwed us taxpayers over royally. Whether you like Taiibi or not he did have good points about obama with the bankers.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638


3 posted on 12/12/2009 10:21:34 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Orange1998

Another thing remember the AIG debacle on the bonus’s well AIG wins again we pick up the tab again

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aUEmHkEXYWMg


4 posted on 12/12/2009 10:22:58 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: org.whodat

When you consider the banks origional name, it makes sense. “Bank of Italy”.


5 posted on 12/12/2009 10:23:01 AM PST by RC2
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To: org.whodat
Um, you do know that every bank in existence funds all of its assets and every payment it makes with some debt or another, right?

This is just more banker-hating class war spin trying to ignore away the inconvenient fact that TARP worked, is being repaid, is making the treasury money not costing it money, and the banks are now sound as a result. Half the world predicted the opposite as loudly as possible, but they are immoral idiots and flat wrong about every scrap of it.

6 posted on 12/12/2009 10:24:31 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Orange1998
Not if you thought the control and pay restrictions TARP provided were a good thing.

When has government control been a good thing?

7 posted on 12/12/2009 10:27:14 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: FromLori; org.whodat

This whole fiasco is stinking. Midnight meeting with congress saying if you don’t loan us the money martial law will be needed. How can the bankers be in such dire conditions overnight and then magically pay it back in 10 months. No wonder “Audit the Fed” is gaining traction.


8 posted on 12/12/2009 10:29:31 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: FromLori

Taiibi can’t be all bad. He is going after Obama’s sponsors ;-)


9 posted on 12/12/2009 10:29:53 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Orange1998
How can the bankers be in such dire conditions overnight and then magically pay it back in 10 months.

How can any bank survive a run?

10 posted on 12/12/2009 10:31:32 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Agree it is good I just don’t understand why he didn’t investigate him before the election there was plenty of information out there but none of them said anything then.

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/baracks-wall-street-problem-is-now-americas


11 posted on 12/12/2009 10:33:22 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: JasonC

Wrong, they can sell stock, in a real market and then write a check on the monies and/or they can ask the bank owners to increase capital.


12 posted on 12/12/2009 10:33:30 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: JasonC

Talk to me in 8-10 years if another bubble doesn’t burst. Pieces of the market must be allowed to fail. BTW... TARP was a good thing? Now that we’ve given the government money, they are playing a shell game and spending it elsewhere. That’s a good thing?


13 posted on 12/12/2009 10:34:06 AM PST by CSA Rebel
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To: Toddsterpatriot; JasonC

When you take the money you AGREE to the conditions.


14 posted on 12/12/2009 10:34:20 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: JasonC
Um, you do know that every bank in existence funds all of its assets and every payment it makes with some debt or another, right?

After that statement I'm even more convinced you don't know your rear from a hole in the ground.

Calling a bogus trade with the FED repayment. Swapping tax payers monies for a different source of tax payers money.

15 posted on 12/12/2009 10:36:11 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Orange1998

Another scam since government sachs got the money from AIG

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/12/goldman-sachs-equity-bonus-scam.html


16 posted on 12/12/2009 10:37:59 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Orange1998
When you take the money you AGREE to the conditions.

Yes, but that wasn't the question.

17 posted on 12/12/2009 10:39:45 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: org.whodat
After that statement I'm even more convinced....

That you never took an accounting class.

18 posted on 12/12/2009 10:40:49 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Orange1998
Now to destroy the actual lie.

6 months ago, the Fed sheet of April 9 showed the following direct support to the banking system -

Term auction credit - $467.3 billion
Asset backed securities loans - $250.6 billion
Discount window loans - $49.2 billion
Total direct bank support - $767.1 billion

As of today, specifically the December 10 statement, the level of support for the banks is -

Term auction credit - $85.8 billion
Asset backed securities loans - $44 billion
Discount window loans - $19.4 billion
Total direct bank support - $149.2 billion

Net repayment - $617.9 billion

The banks are repaying their Fed loans with a fire hose. They are not borrowing from the Fed to repay the treasury; they have repaid the Fed 4-5 times more than they've repaid the treasury.

There is a huge positive cash flow in the direction of the banks. They are reducing the size of their own balance sheets, letting loans run off into cash without renewing all of them (their corporate clients are paying down debt, too, and refinacing short term bank loans based on prime rate for corporate bond offerings), and raising new capital in long term debt, preferred, and common stock offerings on the strength of improved financial markets.

19 posted on 12/12/2009 10:45:31 AM PST by JasonC
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To: org.whodat
See post 19. All the banks are repaying both the treasury and the Fed. But the poster asked for a bank to pay for something *without any of it being borrowed*. Since banks have borrowings 10 times their capital, this is asking for a round square. Banks have borrowings, it is part of the definition of "bank" as a firm others deposit their own funds, with.
20 posted on 12/12/2009 10:47:59 AM PST by JasonC
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