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Review: E-mails show pettiness, not fraud (AP sugarcoats the damaging e-mails)
MSNBC ^ | 12/12/2009 | Seth Borenstein, Raphael Satter and Malcolm Ritter/AP

Posted on 12/12/2009 4:10:04 PM PST by tobyhill

E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don't support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.

The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

The scientists were keenly aware of how their work would be viewed and used, and, just like politicians, went to great pains to shape their message. Sometimes, they sounded more like schoolyard taunts than scientific tenets.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climategate; cru; emails
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1 posted on 12/12/2009 4:10:04 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

E mails show fraud and pettiness.


2 posted on 12/12/2009 4:10:54 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: tobyhill

Anyone who says there is no fraud, hasn’t seen the analyses of the computer programs.


3 posted on 12/12/2009 4:12:50 PM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I like how the AP didn’t even atttempt to “analyze” the numerous data files.


4 posted on 12/12/2009 4:13:08 PM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: tobyhill
“private doubt”???

Yeah, if I used a “trick” to “hide the decline” I think I might have “private doubts” as well.

Sheesh.

A smoking gun, the glare of hate caught by the unblinking eye; and yet the mother screams “My boy wouldn't shoot nobody!”

5 posted on 12/12/2009 4:13:09 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: tobyhill

“hide the decline”

What else is there to say?


6 posted on 12/12/2009 4:13:20 PM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: tobyhill; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; livius; DollyCali; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

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December 8, 2009

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Last week, California Democrat Senator Barbara Boxer called for criminal charges to be brought against the hackers who exposed the global warming hoax.

During a meeting of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee responsible for cap-and-tax legislation, Boxer said, "You call it ClimateGate; I call it E-mail-theft-gate. This is a crime." She said she may or may not hold hearings on ClimateGate, but if she does her goal will be to punish the hackers. She doesn't care that the emails revealed that top scientists in the U.S. and England purposely manipulated data, and tried to squash dissenting views.

But Boxer may have a tough road ahead. British newspapers now reveal the hacked emails were first published on a small computer server in a Siberian city where the Russian secret service has used hackers before. The speculation is, the Russians are trying to undermine the upcoming global warming environmental wacko summit in Copenhagen because as a major oil exporter, Russia has a lot to lose if cap-and-tax is adopted.

I think it would be hilariously ironic if it turns out the Russians, with their repressive Communist history, were responsible for exposing the greatest hoax in modern science, fomented by the same western liberals who once adored the Soviets.

But here's the big picture. It isn't the hackers, it's what they hacked. The global warming hoax is the real crime against humanity and liberals worldwide are the accomplices. Hell, they're the architects.

7 posted on 12/12/2009 4:13:35 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: tobyhill

However, the exchanges don’t undercut the vast body of evidence
DENIAL, REFUSAL, ARROGANCE but not stupid. They will now play the word game to convince you that this is a conspiracy to derail the saving of our world.


8 posted on 12/12/2009 4:13:37 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: tobyhill

Only proves AP is a card carrying member of the Carbon Mafia. Not that we didn’t already know that.


9 posted on 12/12/2009 4:16:08 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: tobyhill

Did the AP put as many folks on this as they did on Palin’s book?


10 posted on 12/12/2009 4:16:27 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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“Sometimes the data didn't line up as perfectly as scientists wanted.”

This sentence is all the proof one needs that this whole Global Warming thing is a hoax.
It either is or isn't but it definitely isn't if their data didn't line up perfectly.

11 posted on 12/12/2009 4:17:34 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Well I guess they acted “stupidly”.


12 posted on 12/12/2009 4:22:04 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: tobyhill

Just in: “Tiger’s communiques were but petty, misunderstood text messages.”


13 posted on 12/12/2009 4:23:04 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: tobyhill

All the fraud is not in the emails, it’s in the codes.


14 posted on 12/12/2009 4:23:56 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: tobyhill
LMAO! AP your buddies have been caught red handed. The game is up its over. You guys are worst than Bagdad Bob.
15 posted on 12/12/2009 4:33:31 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: tobyhill

Damage control, that’s all it is.


16 posted on 12/12/2009 4:34:09 PM PST by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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To: tobyhill

If one could bring back to life the great scientific minds of past generations whose names are now household words, they wouldn’t piss on our current “scientific community” if they were on fire.


17 posted on 12/12/2009 4:36:59 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: tobyhill
The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change.

Let's see, they tell you something is absolutely true even though they themselves weren't sure.

Yep, that's fraud.

18 posted on 12/12/2009 4:39:28 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: tobyhill

I like how this news article is more concerned with arguing a point, than it is for reporting the news fairly.


19 posted on 12/12/2009 4:40:47 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: tobyhill
This is nothing more nor less than plea bargaining. "I will deny fraud but plead guilty to the lesser offense of pettiness. Now, we all are supposed to accept the deal, and move on.
20 posted on 12/12/2009 4:44:37 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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