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Review: E-mails show pettiness, not fraud (AP sugarcoats the damaging e-mails)
MSNBC ^ | 12/12/2009 | Seth Borenstein, Raphael Satter and Malcolm Ritter/AP

Posted on 12/12/2009 4:10:04 PM PST by tobyhill

E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don't support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.

The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

The scientists were keenly aware of how their work would be viewed and used, and, just like politicians, went to great pains to shape their message. Sometimes, they sounded more like schoolyard taunts than scientific tenets.

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KEYWORDS: climategate; cru; emails
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Harvard and MIT debunk global warming” ........

Because they exist on Federal research grants and is more of what they do than teaching under graduates. So of course they will butt kiss for the Feds that pays them


61 posted on 12/13/2009 5:01:58 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

DW your my bro..lay off MIT...


62 posted on 12/13/2009 5:02:46 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

why? How many profs there are AGW stooges?


63 posted on 12/13/2009 5:09:58 AM PST by dennisw
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To: netmilsmom; tobyhill; Soothesayer9; Gene Eric
Did you ever confront a child about taking money out of your purse, only to have the child coyly confess, "Well, mommy I ..um.. tooked a nickel.." when actually there was $22.75 missing?

That's what this AP mini-disclosure is all about: giving us a peek at a few merely embarrassing exchanges, to avoid the big stuff, the large-scale pervasive fraud.

Why not report the Climate Research Unit pretzel-twisting their charts and graphs to the point where even the computer experts couldn't figure out what the real numbers were, creating play-doh data by kneading together incompatible measurements and then molding the play-doh into a politically marketable product--- as reported in the Mail Online?

And why do we have to go to the U.K. in order to get timely, relevant reporting?

It's not just a matter of Michael Mann and Phil Jones's professional rivalries and petty rude-boy banter. There's plenty here that adds up to a Lysenko-super-sized science scam and that ought to result in terminated careers and criminal indictments.

And the carbon-trading inter-governmental gas-bags in Copenhagen who still hope to use this garbage as a pretext for a world command economy? I hope they [self-deleted] =:^p

"Almira Gulch!...I've been dying to tell you what I thought of you. And now, well, being a Christian woman, I can't say it."

64 posted on 12/13/2009 9:36:06 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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