Cooking oil = liquid explosive bomb?
The Danes have got to be kidding us. Why would a future alternative fuel find itself another use as a liquid explosive bomb?
Posted on 12/12/2009 5:54:01 PM PST by myknowledge
A French group which advocates the use of cooking oil to run vehicles had its novel fuel confiscated by Danish police on the ground it could be used to make bombs during the Copenhagen climate talks.
Members of the association "Roule ma Frite" (Roll on Fries) had travelled to the Danish capital on a bus powered by used vegetable oil -- but their return home now hangs in the balance.
"Police came and confiscated the oil for our return journey on the ground that it could be used to make bombs," Gregory Gendre, the coordinator of the group, told AFP.
Three police vans stopped the bus near the Danish environment ministry on Friday, checked the identity of its 20 occupants and then seized 17 jerrycans containing a mixture of vegetable oil and diesel.
They also confiscated a ladder.
Cooking oil = liquid explosive bomb?
The Danes have got to be kidding us. Why would a future alternative fuel find itself another use as a liquid explosive bomb?
Slippery slope....
;-)
Please, what is the formula? / sarc
Probably because it was in containers and not in the fuel tank.
If the vehicle will run on vegetable oil, I would think it would run on diesel to get them home.
The ladder is the weird thing.
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Not exactly Crisco.
And yes, it can be used to make explosives.
ANFO....they aren’t wrong, just silly. Diesel or bio-diesel....makes no major whooptie-doo.
It probably was “biodiesel” and not pure cooking oil.
Still, it’s foolish to think that cooking oil or biodiesel could be used to make an explosive. This sounds like police harassment. I wonder what was painted on the vehicle? (Yes I admit I am posting without reading the article!)
Green bombs for the environment. How thoughtful.
The 500 lbs of fertilizer was in the other bus.
Nope, that was ammonium nitrate. He did use some diesel, and some nitromethane as a sensitizer but the exact one is not too important.
The original patent for ammonium-nitrate explosives used lampblack as the sensitizer, you don’t need oil per se. In England, the mix was called ANIS, they used icing sugar (confectioners sugar in the US) and ammonium nitrate. Wood meal, flour, and a bunch of other stuff including gasoline and diesel can be used. I have not seen data on it, but cooking oil probably works.
So if those cops were truly worried about someone blowing stuff up, they’d pull every hydrocarbon fueled car over and confiscate it.
Good grief. When I had a diesel Rabbit I sometimes carried a spare fuel can in the back. It’s a heck of a lot safer than a can of gasoline.
You can make a bomb out of almost anything. But the motto of mad bombers is unlikely to be “roule ma fritte.”
I hope none of them were carrying pen knives!
Probably worried about ANFO which McVeigh used in OK City.
Thanks, !
Now that you know you can blow up a city block with confectioners sugar, please don’t!
However do look up cremora (dry coffee creamer) you can amaze and frighten your neighbors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr11UC5oNrE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeOM5hNT7-k
Bull! the ~7% (maximum) fuel oil in ANFO is primarily there to inhibit water absorption into the ammonum nitrate. Ammonium nitrate, by itself, is a high (but low VOD) explosive.
Google "grandcamp"... That will take you to the Wikipedia article on the 1947 explosion of the SS Grandcamp in Texas City. I was seven miles away in school, felt the shock, and saw the orange mushroom cloud (before it turned black from burning petroleum products.) That shipload of ammonium nitrate needed no "diesel" to wipe out much of a city...
Bull! the ~7% (maximum) fuel oil in ANFO is primarily there to inhibit water absorption into the ammonum nitrate. Ammonium nitrate, by itself, is a high (but low VOD) explosive.
Google "grandcamp"... That will take you to the Wikipedia article on the 1947 explosion of the SS Grandcamp in Texas City. I was seven miles away in school, felt the shock, and saw the orange mushroom cloud (before it turned black from burning petroleum products.) That shipload of ammonium nitrate needed no "diesel" to wipe out much of a city...
Not ‘Bull!’. Diesel fuel was a component of the OK city bomb. Even if AN is explosive in the absence of fuel oil.
The Danes’ police action is criminal, likely because the biofuel did not reap the tax revenue of fuel bought through conventional means.
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Why would they bother to blow people up when they could simply feed their enemies greasy Danish food?